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    Quote Originally Posted by Toa of Gallifrey View Post
    I cast a dark spell, summoning the spirit of Mike to answer OP's question...

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    See, this is what proves my point. Everyone just conveniently forgets about Sakura in Fate/UBW. Shirou moves in on Saber/Rin, neither of whom gave him the affection Sakura was throwing at him ever since they met. Rin never did anything for Shirou before UBW. Saber has the excuse of being in the Throne fo Heroes, but I don't buy that they fell in love over such a short period of time. Don't even get me started on the wholly undeserved Last Episode. It's as if Shirou found out about the orphans in UBW and HF, but did nothing about them and just let them suffer for eternity under the church. In every other route, Sakura quakes under the tyranny of her family; and even in her own route, Rin never pays for her crimes. Shirou isn't blameless for forgetting the girl who steered his life back into something resembling normality, but no one is as guilty as Rin. The fact that she gets to study at the Clock Tower instead of her more deserving sister is disgusting.
    Mike is disguise I guess

    Rin never did anything to Shirou before UBW? You mean Holy Grail War?
    Blaming Rin for Sakura's circumtances but not blaming their father who put her there in the first place?
    I doubt Rin know anything about how Matous treat Sakura in that 10 years

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    What makes her incapable of being a Grail
    Which is good pretty fucking good thing

    Because the thing that trigger her is Shirou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Rebellion13 View Post
    Mike is disguise I guess

    Rin never did anything to Shirou before UBW? You mean Holy Grail War?
    Blaming Rin for Sakura's circumtances but not blaming their father who put her there in the first place?
    I doubt Rin know anything about how Matous treat Sakura in that 10 years
    This. Rin didn't actually do anything wrong. Any blame that must be given must be given to Tokiomi, and that's only because he was a misguided fool, not because he was an asshole. However, I do think Toa gave as much blame to Rin as Rin gave to herself when she found out what was going on.

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    Yeah but the dude was channeling Mike, so Sakura's suffering is Rin's fault for not rescuing her from danger she wasn't aware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Rebellion13 View Post
    Which is good pretty fucking good thing

    Because the thing that trigger her is Shirou
    No this is a rhetorical question, as in, she's still got Iri pieces in her and so she's still very capable of being a grail in the future

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    I like to imagine that Illya sticking around post-fate and wanting to make Sakura happy would lead to Zouken being dealt with and UBW Shinji with Gilgamesh hanging around in the worm pit was a implication that Shinji finally did something useful.

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    Guys I blacked out for a while what happened--?

    Quote Originally Posted by Toa of Gallifrey View Post
    See, this is what proves my point. Everyone just conveniently forgets about Sakura in Fate/UBW. Shirou moves in on Saber/Rin, neither of whom gave him the affection Sakura was throwing at him ever since they met. Rin never did anything for Shirou before UBW. Saber has the excuse of being in the Throne fo Heroes, but I don't buy that they fell in love over such a short period of time. Don't even get me started on the wholly undeserved Last Episode. It's as if Shirou found out about the orphans in UBW and HF, but did nothing about them and just let them suffer for eternity under the church. In every other route, Sakura quakes under the tyranny of her family; and even in her own route, Rin never pays for her crimes. Shirou isn't blameless for forgetting the girl who steered his life back into something resembling normality, but no one is as guilty as Rin. The fact that she gets to study at the Clock Tower instead of her more deserving sister is disgusting.
    oh nooooooooo

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    Rin never did anything to Shirou before UBW? You mean Holy Grail War?
    fuck, yes i do

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    Blaming Rin for Sakura's circumtances but not blaming their father who put her there in the first place?
    i don't know if mike read/watched zero so i excluded tokiomi
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    tfw no Fate/One
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    How do I get into type moon.

    watch prisma illya. If your amused or aroused, keep going.

    if you are disconcerted or want to call the FBI, run away
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    Curse those 15 year old girls *shakes fist angrily*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asunder View Post
    I like to imagine that Illya sticking around post-fate and wanting to make Sakura happy would lead to Zouken being dealt with and UBW Shinji with Gilgamesh hanging around in the worm pit was a implication that Shinji finally did something useful.
    I mean, I like to imagine that too, but

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    It wasn't really like Scath's outfit at all.

    It was some black leather bondage suit.

    I always wondered why they did that; it seemed so random. Then one day it clicked: it's following the precedent set by Caster with Saber in the UBW route.
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

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    The DEEN anime was my first exposure to Fate, so I likened it to Rider's outfit. HF led me to believe that was intentional, but Medea being into kinky outfits makes more sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    tfw no Fate/One
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    How do I get into type moon.

    watch prisma illya. If your amused or aroused, keep going.

    if you are disconcerted or want to call the FBI, run away
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    Curse those 15 year old girls *shakes fist angrily*

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    Look at what she did to Type Moon's mascot
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    Medea was the one who spent 2 thousand dollars trying to get Archuria.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    tfw no Fate/One
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    How do I get into type moon.

    watch prisma illya. If your amused or aroused, keep going.

    if you are disconcerted or want to call the FBI, run away
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    Curse those 15 year old girls *shakes fist angrily*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toa of Gallifrey View Post
    The DEEN anime was my first exposure to Fate, so I likened it to Rider's outfit. HF led me to believe that was intentional, but Medea being into kinky outfits makes more sense.
    I wonder what kind of fetish outfit she'd put other characters in given the chance?

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    It's a bit redundant for most. Medusa is already in one, Cu, Herc, and Hassan are technically naked. I wants to say she puts Archer in a Hard Gay outfit, but then in CCC you have Archer basically dressing like Aniki.

    At the same time she had Kojiro at her disposition the whole time and didn't even give him a silly hat, so it's probably just girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    I always wondered why they did that; it seemed so random. Then one day it clicked: it's following the precedent set by Caster with Saber in the UBW route.
    Depth? In your DEEN? >>Click HERE<< to find out more!
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    She doesn't like younger women so she probably did it to degrade them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Depth? In your DEEN? >>Click HERE<< to find out more!
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

    Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    No this is a rhetorical question, as in, she's still got Iri pieces in her and so she's still very capable of being a grail in the future
    Quote Originally Posted by Asunder View Post
    I like to imagine that Illya sticking around post-fate and wanting to make Sakura happy would lead to Zouken being dealt with and UBW Shinji with Gilgamesh hanging around in the worm pit was a implication that Shinji finally did something useful.
    Wait, you guys think Shinji actually did something to sabotage the Black Grail in UBW? I know he hung around in the worm pit for a bit with Gil, but I can't see him actually trying to help Sakura.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    She doesn't like younger women so she probably did it to degrade them.
    She doesn't? I thought that it was "Mature Women" that she was ruthless against. Based on Hollow she likes Sakura at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Wait, you guys think Shinji actually did something to sabotage the Black Grail in UBW? I know he hung around in the worm pit for a bit with Gil, but I can't see him actually trying to help Sakura.
    Oh right.

    That was it! People were saying in the UBW anime it was implied Shinji turned Gilgamesh on Zouken. No Zouken = safe Sakura. But that was just speculation, so nothing really confirmed.
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Wait, you guys think Shinji actually did something to sabotage the Black Grail in UBW? I know he hung around in the worm pit for a bit with Gil, but I can't see him actually trying to help Sakura.
    I like to imagine that one of the Weapons Gil used to cleanse the Matou basement just happened to have some kind of esoteric effect that Killed Zouken via his connected to all the Happiness Worms down there, accidentally saving Sakura.

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