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    I remember that was a fun fact. Zouken had actually built up this image in his head that Shirou was reared by Kerry to be his successor despite being given these daily SoL reports by Sakura all the time and the boring reality of it all briefly stuns him into shock when they first happen to meet face to face in HF.
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    Zouken's interest in wanting the Matou to keep on having their magic is pretty much so a Matou heir can participate in the Grail Wars right?

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    I thought it was so he could body snatch them and participate in the Grail War, eventually achieving true immortality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    I thought it was so he could body snatch them and participate in the Grail War, eventually achieving true immortality.
    But it's noted the only time he himself participated as a Master in a Grail War was in the Heaven's Feel route. That means all the other Grail Wars before Zero had to have a Matou Master in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    I thought it was so he could body snatch them and participate in the Grail War, eventually achieving true immortality.
    They win. He body snatches angra.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    They win. He body snatches angra.
    How did he assume he could body snatch something made of curses?

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    Did he even know? Maybe he assumed it would just be Avenger from the 3rd war again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Did he even know? Maybe he assumed it would just be Avenger from the 3rd war again.
    I thought he knew because he actively made use of the Shadow and the Grail Mud. Also, didn't he almost succeed at bodysnatching it until Dark Sakura just crushed the heartworm like nothing?

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    No, he attempted to bodysnatch Sakura there, which she thwarted by pulling him out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    No, he attempted to bodysnatch Sakura there, which she thwarted by pulling him out.
    Ah, I see. But Sakura at that point had fully become Dark Sakura, so she had merged with AM, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    How did he assume he could body snatch something made of curses?
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    Ah, I see. But Sakura at that point had fully become Dark Sakura, so she had merged with AM, right?
    "That's fine. Zouken isn't worried about Sakura's personality. What matters to him is her body and its connection to Angra Manyu."

    "He's planning to take over her empty body after her personality disappears.
    …I don't think you know, but Zouken can take over anyone's body as long as the worm bearing his soul exists. That's how he stayed alive until now.
    From the start, Sakura was just a body to eventually possess."

    Then what?
    The thing possessing Sakura.
    If what's changing her is a contract with a Servant

    "Zouken kidnapped me, probably because he didn't want to let Sakura open the gate.
    He wanted me to take the role of the Holy Grail, allowing him to take over Sakura's body once she became Angra Manyu's Master."

    "I guess he plans to take over Angra Manyu in time, since a soul given flesh is a living example of the Third Sorcery. It's like speaking ill of a perfect God because you're a human with desires."

    "……The definition of God's creation… It's something that's made from people's wishes, but not affected by people's intentions.
    Well, I bet any god will turn into a devil if it reflects Zouken's personality. That must be why Kotomine considered him his enemy."
    He was going to snatch Sakura's body when her mind died. Sakura being the Master of Angra Mainyu meant that Zouken would then be Angra's Master.
    He would then figure out how to take Angra's body which is a materialized soul. And after he took over that, he would be immortal.
    Not exactly a too well thought out plan but then again we have a rotting senile wormman.
    So
    1. Wait for Sakura's mind to fail
    2. Take over Sakura's body to to become Angra's Master
    3. ????
    4. Profit
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    I have a terrible image of a Sakura acting like Zouken because she’s now Zouken

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    Zouken was inside of her long before Shirou.
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    when shirou and sakura are doing it he's doing it with zouken too
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Zouken was inside of her long before Shirou.
    So is it NTR or cuckolding?

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    Depends on the ending, HF true Shirou gets Sakura sexually hooked to him forever, but in HF Normal she opens a soapland
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    So Realita Nua didn't censor those scenes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    So Realita Nua didn't censor those scenes?
    It replaced them with blood drinking from a finger. Truly romantic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    It replaced them with blood drinking from a finger. Truly romantic.
    Who am I to judge their fetishes?

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