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That one isn't an issue to me because I always assumed Saber kept her mouth shut deliberately, maybe so as not to stir up painful memories, maybe because she didn't quite trust Shirou yet at the time due to his last name. Besides, Presage Flower also fixes this, since Saber basically tells Shirou the bare bones of her role in the 4th Holy Grail War.
The official comment is that Saber just thought she was another rando Einzbern homunculus.
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Remember kids, Saber is not only a dumbass but also a body-shamer!
Ok, though how that makes sense is beyond me. Besides, that's only really true for the VN, right?
IIRC, Kirei describes Kerry as being so ruthless and cold-blooded that he gunned down a helpless enemy Master who was begging for his life.
The closest Zero comes to this is Maiya riddling Kayneth with bullets, not quite killing him, before Kerry casually remarks that he can't finish off Kayneth because they signed that magical contract. Saber has to step up and deliver the coup de grace.
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Saber saw Illya as a kid and Irisviel, her smoking hot mom as an adult.
Fastforward 10 years and Saber assumed that the loli with the big guy couldn't possibly be Illya, because Illya + 10 years = smoking hot Irisviel-like, right?
That's still super cold, and the reality in Zero is actually worse because he smirks and lights a cigarette as a man is literally begging him to end it.
I was told and advertised that that story was what happened in the 4th Holy Grail War before Fate/Stay Night. And then I find out it's not exactly what happened and all those differences weren't mistakes and I wasn't imagining things.
Like I asked this question before and got the same reponses so I'm sure that other people will come here and ask too. If anything, I kind of dislike Fate/Zero now pretty much because of this place. Which is a shame because I really liked it.
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True, but she probably had some questions in her mind regardless. Also, that does explain why she only said something when Ilya outright addressed her in Presage Flower.
Still, no other Einzbern homunculus is as mini as she is, so...
I agree. That's just the one, big discrepancy that really leapt out at me when I read Zero.
But it's really pretty minor. Both get across the idea that Kerry is cold as stone.
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Don't let other people ruin it for you. It's still great and mostly true aside from VERY few differences.
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Also, yay, I got promoted!! 1000 posts in 2 months!!
Yeah the major discrepancy is that iirc in the War described in the VN Kerry left Irisviel back in Germany. Other than that it's largely on point. "Lol it's an AU" is just Nasu's preferred version of "A Wizard did it"
Pretty tragic given it's the best Fate/ spinoff.
Well, it mattered to me back then since it made Saber less cool.
In one you had the two fighting a duel, in the other she just gets shanked.
And based on FSN, I assumed Kiritsugu and Kotomine were out in the city fighting too, just separated or something. The batcave itself was pretty random.
I also recall Saber saying that Kiritsugu destroyed the Grail, and then Saber and Gilgamesh fought their duel (or at least their duel continued for a while after it) which made me wonder how it worked since she disappeared immediately after it was destroyed in the actual VN. I figured at that point it was an HF style fight where they both clung to life for a few more moments before they would disappear, finishing out a battle that didn't matter anymore.
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
How does that first part even make sense, unless it had yet to be established that the human body of the Lesser Grail vessel would collapse as Servants were gathered into it to unlock Heaven's Feel.
Is it our fault, or Fate/Zero's fault.
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
Until the bad puns stop, it's rapebird's fault.
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Also, this, but its Kirei, we could just explain it as he liyin, or half liyin more in this case
When I first read it, I thought Kirei was talking about himself. You know, the kind of person who says "I'm asking for a friend..." Kirei wouldn't technically be lying in the most literal sense; he's just leaving out that he was the enemy Master in question.
But that didn't pan out.
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So did VN Iri just die back at the Einzbern castle in Germany or what?
I always did find it weird how that's mentioned in the VN, in third-person narration no less, that Illya and her mom were left behind while Kerry went to fight the 4th Grail War, and then in HA Illya tells Shirou that oh her mother actually was in Fuyuki.
...Unless Rin's dimensional goof-up also merged a Zero timeline as well?
That doesn't really mean much. Its competition are what, Extella & Apocrypha?
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