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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    So did VN Iri just die back at the Einzbern castle in Germany or what?

    That doesn't really mean much. Its competition are what, Extella & Apocrypha?
    CCC comes to mind, also Strange Fake and Case Files
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    CCC comes to mind, also Strange Fake and Case Files
    None of them are animated yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    Until the bad puns stop, it's rapebird's fault.

    Whoa whoa whoa

    I dont mind taking the blame for most things.

    But it I draw the line at fate/hack

    that crap is on gen
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    The moment the opportunity arises for a pun, the one known as 'Taiga's Knight' will be there to deliver whether you like it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    Whoa whoa whoa

    I dont mind taking the blame for most things.

    But it I draw the line at fate/hack

    that crap is on gen
    See when you put it like that it sounds like you mean a crossover between Fate/ and .Hack, which to me sounds closer to Extra then Zero

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    Fate/trapped in an MMO soon (tm)
    shit BL says

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    It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.
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    boytoy angst > fulfilling life of misanthropic extremist environmentalism
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    ladies, he's single
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    Yeah, but that's because he's got more issues than National Geographic.
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    Your already to late on that front, looking at Extra
    "Only in my company, will you not be a monster"


    anywhere than here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Saber saw Illya as a kid and Irisviel, her smoking hot mom as an adult.

    Fastforward 10 years and Saber assumed that the loli with the big guy couldn't possibly be Illya, because Illya + 10 years = smoking hot Irisviel-like, right?
    Quietly sighing that it’s 10 years later and she has to settle for Shirou instead.
    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    That time they checked out that hot guy they were just admiring his watch, yeah?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    I actually prefer the way the VN laid it out. It made it seem like an unforgettable final battle and betrayal. Zero's was way more... anti climactic.
    I mean, it's realistic. She did get "betrayed" but kinda not really, it's just Kiritsugu didn't bother to say "yeah, this thing is a monkey's paw, it's not worth fighting for" and he himself didn't understand fully the consequences of blowing up the gate while it was opening.
    It worked better as a tragedy, which is the entire point of this entire conflict to begin with, it's not really a grand battle royale, it's a bunch of people who are ignorant of a lot of things and destroy themselves because of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    Your already to late on that front, looking at Extra
    Nah, Extra was Fate/Tournament Arc.
    shit BL says

    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.
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    boytoy angst > fulfilling life of misanthropic extremist environmentalism
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    ladies, he's single
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    Yeah, but that's because he's got more issues than National Geographic.
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    You can rage, but there is no waifu communism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    None of them are animated yet.
    I wasn't talking anime, but I also forgot about CCC. I'd have to reread the CCC TL to make the final call.
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    canon finish apo vol 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    So did VN Iri just die back at the Einzbern castle in Germany or what?

    I always did find it weird how that's mentioned in the VN, in third-person narration no less, that Illya and her mom were left behind while Kerry went to fight the 4th Grail War, and then in HA Illya tells Shirou that oh her mother actually was in Fuyuki.

    ...Unless Rin's dimensional goof-up also merged a Zero timeline as well?
    In HA ilya explains that while Kiritsugu took Iri to Fuyuki, Iri is within Ilya too same with the other justeaze clones. In that respect he left his wife with his daughter in Germany.
    Its some weird mental gymnastics.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    He "left" his wife in Germany because the Irisviel that goes to Fuyuki is the Holy Grail and not his wife anymore. It's metaphorical and shit.

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    sounds more like a retcon

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    yes its basically a retcon
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    I am impressed sometimes by the creative gymnastics they do to make these retcons still nominally work.
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

    Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.

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    Half assed retcons?! In my nasuverse?!

    its more common then you think
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    There's also when Kirei tells Shirou and Rin he lost early in the War, but then we find out he lied, he was actually Gilgamesh's master and lasted all the way to the finals - except no, Zero turns his lie into a not-quite-the-truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    There's also when Kirei tells Shirou and Rin he lost early in the War, but then we find out he lied, he was actually Gilgamesh's master and lasted all the way to the finals - except no, Zero turns his lie into a not-quite-the-truth.
    well that's actually smrt writing
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    "Smart", I imagine?
    It's not a bad development on Urobuchi's part. I'm curious, though, if Nasu always intended that, or if his intent from the beginning had been that Kirei had lied.

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    Looking back on it, why did Saber lie so much to Shirou? He even notes it in HA when talking to Illya, in the narration, that Saber said a bunch of things that were very different from what happened actually.

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