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    What lies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    What lies?
    Shirou notes in the narration that Saber said stuff that didn't match up with what Illya tells him.

    Stuff like about Iri for example.

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    Did Saber lie, or was she just wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Did Saber lie, or was she just wrong?
    Wasn't it Saber that told Shirou that Kiritsugu went alone or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    In HA ilya explains that while Kiritsugu took Iri to Fuyuki, Iri is within Ilya too same with the other justeaze clones. In that respect he left his wife with his daughter in Germany.
    Its some weird mental gymnastics.
    Well the anime ironically covered some of that with that Black Iri haunting Ilya as a child.
    Does that then mean that since she is the lesser Grail, she got auto contaminated with AM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    Well the anime ironically covered some of that with that Black Iri haunting Ilya as a child.
    Does that then mean that since she is the lesser Grail, she got auto contaminated with AM?
    I don't think so. The Einzbern Lesser Grails seem to have a filter to stop contamination or something. It's why Zouken planned to use his hackjob bootleg grail instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    I don't think so. The Einzbern Lesser Grails seem to have a filter to stop contamination or something. It's why Zouken planned to use his hackjob bootleg grail instead.
    What was his plan with having his bootleg lesser grail contaminated again? Is it he thought he could control AM through Sakura?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    What was his plan with having his bootleg lesser grail contaminated again? Is it he thought he could control AM through Sakura?
    I can't remember exactly. I think it was something like:

    1) Birth AM.
    2) Use Sakura's Status as it's Master to control it.
    3) Jump into Angra's Immortal Body.
    4) ???
    5) Profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    I can't remember exactly. I think it was something like:

    1) Birth AM.
    2) Use Sakura's Status as it's Master to control it.
    3) Jump into Angra's Immortal Body.
    4) ???
    5) Profit.
    Considering it was a lump of pure curses, could Zouken have even controlled it, being uh enfleshed himself?

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    I thought he used some of the funky Grail bits collected after the Fourth War in order to give Sakura that insane level of anti-Servant juju. When Archer goes down, the text mentions that the Shadow is perfectly suited to chewing through Servants, so much so that it mortally wounds Archer with a blow to the torso that Servants would normally be able to walk off.
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    when all the evils have given up their waifus, all the greats have left for med school, and there are no more at least 3 day battles to be fought what is left is

    not Tsukihime 2
    not DDD3
    not even Girl's Work

    but f/go

    and now f/go english

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    She's the lesser Grail, she has authority. She also has powers that are naturally tuned toward the supernatural.
    It's not AM that's particularly the main factor, it's the fact that it got her powers and that she got Grail authority.

    @forumghost - I don't know if Einzberns are filtered against it. The main reason Sakura is even tainted is precisely because Iri's vessel got contaminated ad the shards put in her body, making a link to the main curse. What you're thinking is that Zouken didn't give her the same safeguards that Iri and Ilya are supposed to have, he just made her for the express purpose of breaking down to fit his purpose, says it himself before the Rider summoning where he was trying to troll Sakura to fight.

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