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    Is Zero canon to the FSN rutes..?

    Yeah, i know the nasuverse is a multiverse, and canon is a tricky word, but what i mean , did all the events of Zero happened ten years before FSN exactly how we saw them , or is a very similar timeline
    Even with my two years into the nasuverse, i saw both theories about it

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    http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread...FOR-ANSWERS%29
    (please do read the OP!)

    And the answer to that particular question is 'not exactly because there are contradictions between the two works, like Illya and Saber, and Saber not really having a final battle with Gilgamesh in Zero, but generally almost the same stuff happened.'

    Anyway, this thread should not exist.


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    They are basically the same, just minor retcon details. You find to much references to Zero in HA and SN that it be hard that it actually happened that differently.

    also this could have went on the question thread I think.
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    can we stop making threads everytime we ask?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Rebellion13 View Post
    can we stop making threads everytime we ask?
    The last 'random question' type thread - Sakura UBW/Fate - went for a good couple of weeks, a good few hundred posts, and would have ended in under 10 if it had gotten drowned out in a massive thread. Chill out and let people have a slightly indepth discussion on something in its own thread.
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    Officially they're in slightly different worlds, but my understanding (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that was something only said a couple years ago to explain a couple of discrepancies between what we saw in Zero and what we were told about the fourth war in SN.

    Not to say it doesn't count or something like that, it is a canon decision and all. But as I understand it that was the reason for it. Everything since Zero came out that talks about the fourth war just uses Zero's version anyway.

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    Could it be? Are people ready to abandon the megathreads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    Officially they're in slightly different worlds, but my understanding (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that was something only said a couple years ago to explain a couple of discrepancies between what we saw in Zero and what we were told about the fourth war in SN.

    Not to say it doesn't count or something like that, it is a canon decision and all. But as I understand it that was the reason for it. Everything since Zero came out that talks about the fourth war just uses Zero's version anyway.
    I actually prefer the way the VN laid it out. It made it seem like an unforgettable final battle and betrayal. Zero's was way more... anti climactic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    Officially they're in slightly different worlds, but my understanding (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that was something only said a couple years ago to explain a couple of discrepancies between what we saw in Zero and what we were told about the fourth war in SN.
    Nah, its in the afterward to the first volume of Zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconic View Post
    Could it be? Are people ready to abandon the megathreads?
    I mean the poll says the more people prefer smaller threads.
    Only if the right person starts the thread. All I remember about the OP of this thread is that before I turned off avatars, images, and signatures forum-wide he had an avatar from some dumb children’s cartoon so none of his topics are valid to me because he likes the wrong things that I don’t like.

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    Officially no but unofficially they just say that to keep the "well ackshually" guys off their back. Little do they know that the "well ackshually" guys are actually their entire fandom.

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    Canon (the concept) doesn't matter.

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    Canon the concept doesn’t matter
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    Having only watched the Zero anime, the only discrepancy I can say I've noticed is the difference in interpretations of how Saber vs. Gil plays out between it and the DEEN anime. What are some other outliers?

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    Saber describes fighting Gil amidst grail flames, not before

    Kotomine describes his wish to separate Saber and Kiritsugu as the cause of the fire and for people to be gone from that place (what people, they were in an empty batcave)

    Saber reacts to seeing Gil open GoB in FSN with surprise (Saber witnessing GoB in Zero count: 4)

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    Thanks y'all pretty cool too except Mcjon
    But Mcjon has the biggest post count out of everyone, logically he must be the coolest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    But Mcjon has the biggest post count out of everyone, logically he must be the coolest.
    Speaking of post count, will I rank up to DAA once I get to 1000 posts?

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    Speaking of post count, will I rank up to DAA once I get to 1000 posts?
    You need to wait for one to die and then there's like a vote or something. Alternatively Klingon promotion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toa of Gallifrey View Post
    Having only watched the Zero anime, the only discrepancy I can say I've noticed is the difference in interpretations of how Saber vs. Gil plays out between it and the DEEN anime. What are some other outliers?
    Illya and Saber seeing each other on Day3 should start some serious gears turning in each of their heads, they should basically start FSN on personal basis.

    F/HA kinda patches it up, but not really.

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