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    The problem is the one who can make them pass to be published and having anime adaptation. Some writers probably just do it for hobby or to fill their holiday or spare time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    Honestly some of the LNs have crappy enough plots and characters they read like fanfics that got prominent.
    That's basically what the LNs adapted from web novels are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alternative Ice View Post
    That's basically what the LNs adapted from web novels are.
    That includes even the genuinely good ones though. For instance, Re:Zero was originally a web novel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    Honestly some of the LNs have crappy enough plots and characters they read like fanfics that got prominent.

    Like that one about the emotionless magic user who has some sort of younger sister that is a brocon. All I remember is the magic school they attend has green school uniforms.

    Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei. Interpersonal relationships aside, it actually had a LOT of depth in its magic system and how it relied on advanced science and field manipulation. It's just that sometimes it's better to just let a fire spell be a fire spell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    That includes even the genuinely good ones though. For instance, Re:Zero was originally a web novel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei. Interpersonal relationships aside, it actually had a LOT of depth in its magic system and how it relied on advanced science and field manipulation. It's just that sometimes it's better to just let a fire spell be a fire spell.
    It was also insanely nationalist and its MC was a Gary Stu of the highest order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    TM still has the best magic system I've ever come across.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    TM still has the best magic system I've ever come across.
    It’s funny because I started reading this Isekai called “The Magic In This Other World Is Too Backwards” and except for magic circuits the guy just basically ripped his whole “modern magic” setting that the main character comes from from the Nasuverse lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    It’s funny because I started reading this Isekai called “The Magic In This Other World Is Too Backwards” and except for magic circuits the guy just basically ripped his whole “modern magic” setting that the main character comes from from the Nasuverse lol
    What are some examples?

    Is this it?: https://www.novelupdates.com/series/...-wa-okureteru/
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    It’s not a perfect 1:1 match obviously but the resemblance is uncanny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    It’s funny because I started reading this Isekai called “The Magic In This Other World Is Too Backwards” and except for magic circuits the guy just basically ripped his whole “modern magic” setting that the main character comes from from the Nasuverse lol
    I wonder how many series do this in whole or in part. It surprised me hearing offhand that Youjo Senki uses the magic circuit system in the LN.

    And Japanese isekai was better when it was wish fulfillment for little girls in the 90s (Escaflowne, Rayearth, Fushigi Yuugi, Twelve Kingdoms, the later CLAMPverse fuckfest). They had robots. And real characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    It’s not a perfect 1:1 match obviously but the resemblance is uncanny
    Well what stands out to you, that seperates Nasuverse-style urban fantasy from other urban fantasy settings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    It’s funny because I started reading this Isekai called “The Magic In This Other World Is Too Backwards” and except for magic circuits the guy just basically ripped his whole “modern magic” setting that the main character comes from from the Nasuverse lol
    Oh yeah I remember that one, I only read a few of the beginning chapters but yeah that guys previous life just screams Nasu mage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    Well what stands out to you, that seperates Nasuverse-style urban fantasy from other urban fantasy settings?
    Just the way it infodumps about different magic systems being like programs engraved in the world to reproduce natural phenomenon and elements being something extra that gives meaning to spells but different elements being able to reproduce the same effects even though they start from different places. And the Church being a secret branch of the Catholic Church devoted to stamping out heresies like magic, and the goal of magi to be reaching the Akashi Records to become omnipotent. And the MC practices Kabbalah like Roa and Aoko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Just the way it infodumps about different magic systems being like programs engraved in the world to reproduce natural phenomenon and elements being something extra that gives meaning to spells but different elements being able to reproduce the same effects even though they start from different places. And the Church being a secret branch of the Catholic Church devoted to stamping out heresies like magic, and the goal of magi to be reaching the Akashi Records to become omnipotent. And the MC practices Kabbalah like Roa and Aoko.
    Okay I can see he certainly took a lot from Nasu. There are certainly worse settings to crib off lf I say.

    Is the story actually okay for an isekai?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    Well what stands out to you, that seperates Nasuverse-style urban fantasy from other urban fantasy settings?
    How does LOTR separates itself from other high fantasy settings?

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