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    All I'm hearing is "I don't like Zero because Gen was mean to my waifu." Which is fine, I guess. It's just a silly hill to die on. Saber is the face of the franchise, so it obviously didn't hurt her stock too much. You can enjoy her in several other incarnations and mediums.

    Unpopular opinion of my own:

    I'm glad we don't have an Illya route.

    She works better as a tragic figure, a microcosm of all that is wrong with magi society valuing results over the people trampled along the way. Sakura suffers in much the same way, but she has the potential for a happy ending, which takes the edge off. Even Saber gets a good conclusion in three of the five endings. That Illya always gets the short end of the stick gives her tragedy a permanence and a power that a lot of these other sub-plots lack. Illya can't ever be truly saved, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

    I also never would have touched FSN if it had loli sex scenes.
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    when all the evils have given up their waifus, all the greats have left for med school, and there are no more at least 3 day battles to be fought what is left is

    not Tsukihime 2
    not DDD3
    not even Girl's Work

    but f/go

    and now f/go english

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    I can see that.

    Illya is actually my favorite of the FSN human cast so from that angle I've always lamented how her route got merged into Sakura's, but it's definitely true that her always getting the short end makes her character's tragedy feel..stronger, I guess is the word. Even her happy endings don't last forever since she has an expiration date.
    Also yes it never occurred to me that an Illya route would have had Illya sex scenes, and no thank you.

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    Hell, the only reason there wasn’t a scene where illya rapes shirou in the fate we got was they ran out of money and had to release as is
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    Yeah thanks for that 'nam flashback from picking the wrong choice at the end of KT, I really appreciate it.

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    ...There's a loli sex scene in Kagetsu Tohya, or are you talking about a different KT entirely?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastXxx View Post
    Truly unpopular opinion: Most of the characters in Zero and Strange Fake are shit
    Yeah, pretty much. Keyword 'most'.
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    I thought it’d be interesting because the final solution they came up with before finally scrapping the Illya route altogether was working it into a third option between choosing Sakura and the Superhero ending.

    You can't save everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    Even her happy endings don't last forever since she has an expiration date.
    Also yes it never occurred to me that an Illya route would have had Illya sex scenes, and no thank you.
    See. I disagree with that last point, and as for the first, even if everyone can't get a happy ending, you can't stop people from obsessively trying (and yes, like Overlord Ainz, I admit that I am being hypocritical because I also mock Shu of the 3 Kingdoms). As (admittedly assimilated) Karna said in Extella Link, there is at times nobility in choosing the affection of one over the welfare of millions, when Altera decided to side with Emperor Karl.

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    You mean, the right choice.

    Also, its nice when titles have normie filters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobin View Post
    I thought it’d be interesting because the final solution they came up with before finally scrapping the Illya route altogether was working it into a third option between choosing Sakura and the Superhero ending.

    You can't save everyone.
    1. Persist in being a Superhero
    2. I will save Sakura!
    3. ...Man that little German girl in the park sure was cute...

    Would be a strange direction for that scene to go but why not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    1. Persist in being a Superhero
    2. I will save Sakura!
    3. ...Man that little German girl in the park sure was cute...

    Would be a strange direction for that scene to go but why not
    The scene in question that had said choice happens in the park with Illya anyways, so I guess in context it might've made a bit more sense.

    I could see a third option being equivalent to Shinji not wanting to get into the robot, and then things snowball from there. Neither here nor there, though.
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    I can live with Illya sex scenes (as long as there's a viable path of attraction between her and Shirou; certainly not in F/SN-as-we-know-it), but Illya route would have to be an offshoot of Fate, not Heaven's Feel.
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    Yeah, because that's when Shirou and Ilya interact WITHOUT Shirou realizing she's an adoptive sibling, or at least not having it spelled out to him.
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    What if the name of the route Heaven's Feel was actually how Ilya's ...

    you get where I'm going

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    certainly not in F/SN-as-we-know-it)
    Always /hollow, for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername View Post
    The scene in question that had said choice happens in the park with Illya anyways, so I guess in context it might've made a bit more sense.

    I could see a third option being equivalent to Shinji not wanting to get into the robot, and then things snowball from there. Neither here nor there, though.
    ! ... Oh, wait, wrong Shinji.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    I can live with Illya sex scenes (as long as there's a viable path of attraction between her and Shirou; certainly not in F/SN-as-we-know-it), but Illya route would have to be an offshoot of Fate, not Heaven's Feel.
    Well, wasn't it that there were supposed to be 6 routes? Artoria, Rin, Sakura, Illya, Medea Lily, and Medusa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    1. Persist in being a Superhero
    2. I will save Sakura!
    3. ...Man that little German girl in the park sure was cute...

    Would be a strange direction for that scene to go but why not
    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername View Post
    The scene in question that had said choice happens in the park with Illya anyways, so I guess in context it might've made a bit more sense.

    I could see a third option being equivalent to Shinji not wanting to get into the robot, and then things snowball from there. Neither here nor there, though.
    Things going off rail and the fact that they planned far enough to have thoughts about selling HF as a game on its own makes me think there would’ve been another outcome worth seeing even if what we got is good as it is. I also don’t think the ending would mean necessarily solving Illya’s lifespan dilemma either, but who knows about all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    ...There's a loli sex scene in Kagetsu Tohya, or are you talking about a different KT entirely?
    You get to fuck the cat before the end.

    Or you just let her bite your finger, if you're a weirdo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    What if the name of the route Heaven's Feel was actually how Ilya's ...

    you get where I'm going
    I thought it was obvious from the beginning, being the name of third magic and all.

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