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    Well, Moriarty's bio has a bit what says he's knew about Clocktower, just tried to stay away from them. If he's fictional, why specify such thing? Also the takeaway from Holmes' quest I had is "What we believe is fictional is kinda real and there are proofs,hidden for the sake of preservation of Mystery". But then we got Charle\Karl thing so the clusterfuck thickens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold Experience View Post
    But then we got Charle\Karl thing so the clusterfuck thickens.
    But isn't that just the "more positive" version of Dracula/Vlad or Carmilla/Elizabeth? Of course, Nobunaga's Demon King legend was spread by the person him/herself when alive.

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    No joke about what I'm about to say, I'm starting to relate to your immense detest for Grand order, The story makes no sense when you think about it in the broader sense which is that it's about time shifters saving timelines from timeline altering threats that threaten other timelines because timelines shenanigans.

    All happening under the deployed plot by a mastermind wannabe/OP mascot with he and his fellas turning all on when one is and switching turns when one is done for because his master didn't bother to make an all-accounting safety measure for the time when he will be gone.

    Literally, The Mcs are self-insert characters. even Link is better than that, nuff said.

    did I mention that the story sometimes make no sense by including gag characters within the plot instead of separating them through the gameplay and the cutscenes (besides interludes) and processed to make the players believe they are the actual MC's and that their decisions are canonical to the actual plot when it's clearly, absolutely, truthfully, not. You are not ritsuki. Get over it!, Folks.

    There is also the gameplay which is basically Fate Extra rock-scissors-paper all over again but worse. It's just a debuff/buff turn-based 1D game with Self-inserts against NPCs with a so-not-really metaphorical D20 special move [NP] that you can't control for shitty game-play reasons.

    The NPs that are sometimes made purely for gameplay with 0 context. and while Grand order is not the only one guilty of that (looking at you extella) let's not forget that two wrongs don't make even half a right.

    being obligated to play it to progress into the story made me pull my hair off sometimes as it gets extremely tiring and frustrating when you just want to sit and watch rather than keep holding a device and clicking a glorified rock-paper-scissors game.

    That did bother and bore me so much that I couldn't handle it and switched it off to walkthroughs videos that are cutscenes only and let me tell you something, that made me feel incredibly relieved.

    It's a fake Free-to-play game and everyone knows it. nuff said.

    Keep in mind that i'm criticizing it collectively rather than individually. a few bits here and there are not gonna redeem it for me. The same way an Episode from Apocrypha is not gonna redeem the whole show for me.

    I'm caught up with JP now since my japanese is basic and while it takes me alot of time and help to understand what is going on (4 months) and god, Thinking they would finally explain what in the name of god is this story even about anymore other than time shifting saving timelines from timeline threats was a glorious nope.

    they just don't care and won't stop the wounds opened from part 1, nor stop splashing salt into it and expect no one to pay their regards to it; while feeding you a good meal once a while. and while that's a premise some people are fine with. I'm absolutely not, You are either good or bad not good and bad at the same time.

    at least I found something worse than last encore.

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    This is the worst hot take I've read all year, oh my.

    processed to make the players believe they are the actual MC's and that their decisions are canonical to the actual plot when it's clearly, absolutely, truthfully, not. You are not ritsuki. Get over it!, Folks.
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    F/GO looks like a mon game.

    Don't have an android device, so I might end up eating those words when/if I ever get to play it. But for now, at the remove of the wiki? Servant entries remind me of Bulbapedia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savepoints View Post
    This is the worst hot take I've read all year, oh my.


    just wow
    well look what happened to Zabi, or original TM R18 VN MC.

    I agree that TM MC are not self insert because Kinoko will add too much characterization.

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    Just the ritsuki sentence has me dying of laughter

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    speak ironically, that's the only way the players can take you seriously.
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    They hated him for he spoke the truth. They tried to silence him by hitting him with their jalter dakimakura.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endfall View Post
    F/GO looks like a mon game.

    Don't have an android device, so I might end up eating those words when/if I ever get to play it. But for now, at the remove of the wiki? Servant entries remind me of Bulbapedia.
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    Hey now, you're going too far; Last Encore was alright.

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    Last Encore was a string of bizarre choices that didn't pan out at all.

    If you're going to do a pseudo-remake of the original game, just go ahead and do a straight adaptation of vanilla Fate/Extra. Why fight the same Servants in the same order but now it's all part of a time loop and we have an edgy power up for the MC and Rin doing her best Prillya impression?

    The new additions felt half-baked in such a way that they didn't add anything to the preexisting narrative and ultimately distracted me with how superfluous and jarring they were. Every new bell or whistle made me stand back and ask myself, 'okay, but why?'
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    when all the evils have given up their waifus, all the greats have left for med school, and there are no more at least 3 day battles to be fought what is left is

    not Tsukihime 2
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    but f/go

    and now f/go english

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    For a real unpopular opinion, I felt that Last Encore was a poorly explained, casual viewer-unfriendly, inconsistently animated mess that was... pretty damn entertaining. There were some beautiful scenes (both visually and emotionally), I loved the soundtrack, and, damn me if you must, Nero was a phenomenally endearing character.

    It's still a travesty of a show from a production standpoint that should've been scrapped or mended early in the process, but accounting for the unique nature of Type-Moon's various settings and Nasu's writing quirks, I'm not particularly annoyed by how it turned out on the basis of intrigue and entertainment. It's a truly unique experience/atmosphere/thematic palate compared to any of the other TM animes and I enjoyed watching it.

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    Last Encore would've made a nice DLC for F/E. Have some horror segments in there, a la Shiki not knowing what the fuck he's doing as he wanders about at night murderin'.

    Not really good material for a standalone anime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmaiar View Post
    For a real unpopular opinion, I felt that Last Encore was a poorly explained, casual viewer-unfriendly, inconsistently animated mess that was... pretty damn entertaining. There were some beautiful scenes (both visually and emotionally), I loved the soundtrack, and, damn me if you must, Nero was a phenomenally endearing character.

    It's still a travesty of a show from a production standpoint that should've been scrapped or mended early in the process, but accounting for the unique nature of Type-Moon's various settings and Nasu's writing quirks, I'm not particularly annoyed by how it turned out on the basis of intrigue and entertainment. It's a truly unique experience/atmosphere/thematic palate compared to any of the other TM animes and I enjoyed watching it.
    I don't think that's unpopular. It wasn't a bad experience, but it should've been made differently.
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    I still prefer Last Encore over the other VN Bad End continuation anime of last year. Steins;Gate 0 was so disappointing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyak View Post
    I don't think that's unpopular. It wasn't a bad experience, but it should've been made differently.
    Being that I wasn't around when it was released and therefore missed most of the direct responses to it, I can't deny that it may not be as unpopular an opinion as it seems. It's just that, in general, I don't really hear it brought up without someone deriding it as a horrific monstrosity that spits on F/E. Like, I only really remember one or two people from what I've seen since I've been around as actually deriving entertainment from it rather than disgust.

    But if my perception of people's reaction to it is off, then fair enough.

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    Disgust is way too strong a word for my opinion on LE. For me it was sort of aggravating to watch but more than that it was just super forgettable. The only part I ever think back on is Shinji's last scene because that was really good.

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    But I hadn't read Extra yet when LE was airing so that's coming from someone who barely knew any of the characters, except Rin and Nero of course.

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    Maybe they should have done those requirements for making the grade as a HS from the very beginning. At least then there wouldn't be that much disappointment.

    Yes, the part of needing fame and a defining legend, defying the impossible is pretty necessary for how they used to frame being a hero, and the general paradigm shift away from that, because otherwise we're just tossing random people we think will sound cool with anime powers around (which I won't lie, would sound fun if trashy). But in what used to be the context, it wouldn't have flown.

    Fuyuki being limited and there being other summoning systems that can do something else is fine, and the Servant formula doesn't really lend itself that well to letting different archetypes in without sounding silly (Gunner makes me cringe). So maybe if they had framed it from the beginning as how Extra Aksys translation put it, "Legendary Souls", that would allow more leeway for having more random famous people around and people wouldn't have been mad because nothing was being broken.

    But then you'd lose out on why those provisions were important in the first place, so this is just a stupid idea altogether, for this universe. Hell, we already had Wraiths so Phantoms were not a bad addition, but this ties in to the complaints about literal randos being touted.

    Holmes being an HS I actually think fits in terms of being the world's most famous pop culture detective but it's also getting muddled by the fictional/real dichotomy the TM writers seem to not have straight between themselves. As it was put before, it actually doesn't matter which makes it pointless in the first place to speculate so I have a bad feeling there's not gonna be a satisfactory payoff to that line of discussion. There's room for ambiguity and letting the reader decide in art but for here, it comes off more like trying to have the cake and eat it too, trying to get the best of two options that are fundamentally incompatible.

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