I wasn't accusing TM of this. The work I was actually thinking of was Fairy Tail because Mashima constantly pulled this shit in that series.Originally Posted by Mizukume
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I thought Ciel still existed in Fate worlds, as did the plot of Tsukihime in some form or another.
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A retcon is when a plot point introduced seems to outright contradict and/or invalidate an earlier plot point.
That does make me wonder about the Fate version of Ciel. Does Roa exist without Arc to stalk thoughout time? Or is she just a modern Jeanne, a small town french girl who's town get wrecked and goes for revenge, only this time it's vampires not the English. Would she actually be aged up to her forties, or would fate conspire to make her some other form of immortal teenager?
I really want a vampire hunters anime now. Flesh out some of the DAA, toss in some weirdos from the Church and MA who dislike each other but have to work together. It's like a buddy cop horror story.
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Arc exists in Fate worlds, pretty sure, as do all the DAAs, even though none of them are DAAs.
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Roa also exists, if Dantes' interlude means anything.
Ciel has enough magical superpotential to be affectd by the Stand users are drawn to other stand users rule even if Roa gor killed a few reincarnations before reaching her
I was under the impression that in Fate worlds, Tsukihime's events happened in some altered form based on the differences between the two. Was I wrong?
You mean Dante's CD Drama.
Yeah, that.
In Fate worlds Roa never met Arc
And Dantes burned Roa's soul
so pretty hard to have Tsuki happen with that
On the other hand pretty sure the events of Knk did happen and the MEDOP user in Fate worlds is Ryougi.
There's that weird "only 1 MEDOP user" thing
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Oh. I see then. Didn't realize that was the case. But Arc still exists, right? Also, there IS the whole only one MEDOP user rule? I was told previously on this site that it wasn't necessarily the case.
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But in mixed Fate/Tsuki worlds, the events of Tsukihime could have happened?
I thought there was some stuff about how Tsuki humanity is weaker/stronger so in Fate the True Ancestors don't exist, therefore neither does Arc.
And if Dantes got Roa, then it must have been in the 1800's(?), so farm girl Ciel in the 1970's dosn't have to worry about being body snatched. Unless Roa is a character from Spirit Circle and linear progression is a suggestion not a rule.
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Arc should still exist.
As for the one MEDOP thing, it's iffy. In Ryougi's route in Actress Again, she says that it's special night that won't happen a second time when she meets Tohno. In Plus Disc they said Tohno and her can't meet because it'll cause inconsistencies.
So even if you can indeed have one more than on MEDOP user at a time in a timeline, it would seem Tohno and Ryougi (the two MEDOP users we know) can't exist at the same time unless it's a weird world warping event like TATARI and lets face it probably a singularity would qualify too.
So you get to the same conclusion.
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The organization known as the Dead Apostle Ancestors don't exist.
True Ancestors do though. See Arc in Extra.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Far side might’ve still happened somewhat normally right? Roa’s not important there.
True Ancestors definitely exist, as does Arc. The True Ancestors predate the Human Order and are of the Earth itself, and the differences between both worlds are mostly based on the strength of the Human Order.
Oof, that must suck for Shiki if he still has to go through a version of Tsukihime without MEoDP.
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Maybe he'd have his Demon Hunter powers/Pure Eyes? Would the massacre of the Nanaya have still happened?
Roa's the reason SHIKI inverted at such a young age.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
I'd say so. Unless Makihase decided to chill for some reason. Shiki himself had nothing to do with that massacre that he could've changed then, aside from living through itand forgetting it.
I'm pretty sure the "only one MEoDP user" thing is pure fanon. It's just that the MEoDP are so rare that even among figures of mythology they're considered mythology.
The inconsistencies are from the setting- people who are there and doing things in one universe will be doing something entirely different in another. I think the example given was that Touko wouldn't be pursuing the perfect body puppet thing if the TAs exist.
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Figured as much, but I thought there was a chance that with all the differences between the worlds, Makihisa would for some reason not do it.
There was that Koha-Ace thing that said Fate/worlds don't have Arc, and that Fate-world Roa didn't get to meet her.
But then you've got Gatou finding her in Extra so I don't know what Koha-Ace meant by that. Either she's genuinely not native to that timeline or the Koha-Ace thing meant that Fate/worlds "don't have her" in some other way than "she doesn't exist".
Or Koha-Ace was just being Koha-Ace but-
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