It's basically "We do nothing and Caster gets the chance to win, or we try to ally with other Master but we know nothing about Lancer's Master, so Berserker is our only choice"
Not because Illya may be good but because they really need some help at that point
I get why it happened. But it's not really logical??? All I'm saying is for a scene to kind of ease it towards that.
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What is logical then?
"A Master should not be involved in a Servant's fights" ~Saber, about a million timesOriginally Posted by Iceblade44
"I didn't expect to have my Master fight with me. Feels good" ~Lancer, paraphrased
*Uses magecraft to hide himself while giving orders* ~the most egocentric of all magi, El Melloi
If anything, the lore says the exact opposite. Shirou, Kiritsugu and to an extent Rin are the exceptions, not the norm.
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
Go for the Master
That's battles against Servants tho, Magi vs Magi battles are different. It is expected for the individual Masters to fight each other and let their Servants deal with the opponents Servants
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
What's your deal about not NEEDING to do something? It makes no sense. As for the breakdancing, I honestly felt it conveyed how dangerous Berserkles really was, more than a walking tank would have. It gave of a sort of intimidating, dangerous grace that really gave off a sort of ultimate hero vibe. Like, "you think I'm a mindless tank? Well sucks for you motherfucker, I still got them skills, even when mindless!" Also, Ilya was definitely playing with Rin in that scene.
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Same question because based on what info Shirou and Rin had, Ilya was the logical choice for an ally, especially since Heracles apparently held the advantage over Medea.
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See to me the Ilya scene felt like it was only there as a boring shout-out to Zero/unnecessary padding.
"Hey gaiz memba dat ting Iri did! Ilya can do it too! Because they're related! Yay references!"
I personally like the fact that it showed Ilya could do something aside from commanding the 8-foot hunk of muscle with a literal slab of stone as a weapon. Also, Iri's alchemy was definitely pretty in Zero, so I'm glad Ilya did something similar and to much greater effect.
I didn’t like it because I feel like the moment someone tried to do something to Illya Herk would just no fucks given ignore Artoria and run over to punch Rin.
feels out of character desu.
breakdancing ruins the point of berserker being a berserker and the whole time of the scene where Artie is actually able to contend with her due to the battlefield and fighting with skill.
I rewatched the scene & like I saw Rin discuss it and it wasn't as bad as I remember.
I think when I first watched though, I just found it really jarring because of Illya's coldness towards them in the 3rd episode--in an "even if you're desperate, why would you trust her?" sort of way. Like, Rin was pretty confident it would work, Shirou just went with the flow. Like...she literally said in her first line to them "Okay, I'll kill you now"
So like I think if there was something that would have kinda proved Illya could be trustworthy in between epi 3->to them wanting to ally with her could have at least sold it to me.
On the contrary, them being wary of Lancer felt more natural.
Illya is both an Einzbern and a homunculus, maybe in Rin's head that implied at least some dedication to the mechanics of the HGW, and her being a homunculus makes is unlikely for her to deviate much from what her faction wants her to do, no matter her personal thoughts on it. She's oddly the least of a wildcard of the remaining masters at that point.
Like most of the other Berserkers at this point. Like the ones that can do sweets move with their weapons like Lancelot, use a complex weapon like Lu Bu, summon armies, talk, are just some other aspect of the hero that don't requires to be insane really, or other gimmicks that it would required some grade of sanity to do something
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Lu Bu can use his NP but he’s still otherwise hulk smash like non-Ufo Herk I’m pretty sure.
He can switch between smashing hard with his halberd to shooting arrows to hit with differents attack versions of his weapon
but pankration is going too far
EoTM False basically preserves his fighting skill though, and even with it, the graveyard still gave Ufo Herk some issues.
It's really simple though? It annoys me when characters do things they wouldn't (and indeed, didn't) do just so UFO can show off, because it's through what they do that we learn who they are. Do you think that Archer, stoic shortest-path-to-goal broken man that he is, would stoop to spinning his swords like fucking fidget spinners during a fight? And yet, here it is.
And for the love of all that's holy please don't tell me "that's just his fighting style".
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
That’s just his fighting style
And Nasu is the one who wrote a big fight scene for Illya and strongarmed ufo into cramming it in because he regrets not giving her a chance to show off
Archer, stoic shortest-path-to-goal broken man, who wishes he could dual-wield guns DMC style
Archer, stoic shortest-path-to-goal broken man, who shoots off a witty one liner before offing Medea and a mythologically relevant burn soon after
Archer, stoic shortest-path-to-goal broken man, who brags about taking down Herk and makes a damn good attempt
Archer, stoic shortest-path-to-goal broken man, who gets into a playground pissing contest with Shirou in the middle of his figth with Medea
Archer, stoic shortest-path-to-goal broken man, who talks about the detriments of heroes of justice while playing with a cat
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Archer, stoic shortest-path-to-goal broken man, who jocularly suggests Shirou commit suicide as an eldritch monstrosity threatens to consume him
Archer, stoic shortest-path-to-goal broken man, who insultingly bants with Cu Chulainn
Yeah, EMIYA acts all edgy and cool, but he's really just as much of a dork as Shirou.
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