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    IIRC Karna was loyal to Duryodhana because he treated him kindly. And, well, loyalty is kind of his Thing.

    He probably also wanted to fight Arjuna as well, maybe.
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karna Matrix
    "Including, I owe Duryodhana a debt. For some reason, that impudent and timid man is so bright to me. It may be blasphemy against my father but, occasionally, I feel that that sweet light is the warmth of the sun."
    It was not the fire of the sun that Karna carried nor the absolute brilliance of Surya; to Karna, the sun was the imperfect charm that humans displayed.
    Jason Karna pls
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    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    For the second part, yeah, that's definitely part of the reason. - - - Updated - - - To head it off, yes, Irisviel is aware and doesn't mind, so it's not quite cheating.
    To be fair, near the end before she gets strangled by Kirei, there was an admittance that she didn't really understand his ideal's nuances and frankly just wanted to love him, so the problems he had and the way he "punished" himself probably wasn't understood that well by her either. You're still at the crossroads of "your wife and your protege are okay being your tools, but is that really okay" kind of situation. They even make fun of this in the Einzbern Consultation Room skit iirc.
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    I think the romantic development in HF is more "how Sakura sees Shirou" rather than the other way around.
    That's an interesting interpretation, what led you to think that? Its shown in the other routes, but was in the beginning of HF where Shirou was taking care of Sakura after one of her spells and talks about how different the house is and how he can repay her for making it more like a home. It what made me like the pairing, it's about the simple things being sometimes really important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    To be fair, near the end before she gets strangled by Kirei, there was an admittance that she didn't really understand his ideal's nuances and frankly just wanted to love him, so the problems he had and the way he "punished" himself probably wasn't understood that well by her either. You're still at the crossroads of "your wife and your protege are okay being your tools, but is that really okay" kind of situation. They even make fun of this in the Einzbern Consultation Room skit iirc.
    I haven't looked at Zero for nearly a year, so I forgot this important fact. Really does muddy the waters here. In any case, no point getting mad at Kerry because life punished him enough for crimes perceived and real.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    I speak for the majority of important people* *a category comprised entirely of myself

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    Guda never was, nor will ever be the actual protagonist of F/GO.

    They're just an accessory to Mashu.

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    tfw the actual protagonist died for the accessory, who then beat the last boss

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    I mean Romani beating the last boss was his big moment after all.

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    I'm not sure if Chaotzuing yourself at the final boss counts as winning, even when it does work.
    shit BL says

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    It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.
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    boytoy angst > fulfilling life of misanthropic extremist environmentalism
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    ladies, he's single
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    Yeah, but that's because he's got more issues than National Geographic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    That's an interesting interpretation, what led you to think that? Its shown in the other routes, but was in the beginning of HF where Shirou was taking care of Sakura after one of her spells and talks about how different the house is and how he can repay her for making it more like a home. It what made me like the pairing, it's about the simple things being sometimes really important.
    When she talks about how pure he is throughout the route, it's like how Satsuki talks about Shiki.
    But with Satsuki and Shiki, it's foreshadowing for Shiki. Here, if HF was the first route, that wouldn't work because it's the first two routes that give credence to Sakura's reasoning.
    As the reader, you "should" have fallen in love with Shirou in the way Sakura did. As the route develops there's this mental sync where you eventually understand Sakura is supposed to like Shirou the same way you're supposed to like Shirou.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    I haven't looked at Zero for nearly a year, so I forgot this important fact. Really does muddy the waters here. In any case, no point getting mad at Kerry because life punished him enough for crimes perceived and real.
    It's less about hating him and more about what Nasu himself said, about how Shirou shouldn't take advice ahout women from the guy iirc.

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    When she talks about how pure he is throughout the route, it's like how Satsuki talks about Shiki.
    But with Satsuki and Shiki, it's foreshadowing for Shiki. Here, if HF was the first route, that wouldn't work because it's the first two routes that give credence to Sakura's reasoning.
    As the reader, you "should" have fallen in love with Shirou in the way Sakura did. As the route develops there's this mental sync where you eventually understand Sakura is supposed to like Shirou the same way you're supposed to like Shirou.
    Satsuki? Hmm, maybe if she was more distant from Shirou I could make the link, but Satsuki pined for him for one incident and barely interacted with him, while Sakura became part of his family in a fashion.
    Like, that was why I mentioned the stuff in other routes while being low key, showed that she had a place in his home. Sudou encapsulated it into a 15 minute scene, but there were bits thrown in all over the routes.
    Also, while Sakura thought he was "pure" in a sense, she talks about the oddness he has (the training bits where he's effectively stabbing his own throat) interspersed with why she likes him personally.

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    I'm not saying you hated him personally, I was just trying to say that generally there's no point grousing over his flaws because life has punished him enough.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Case Files is mediocre at best

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    Is that really unpopular?

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    There's a fair chunk of love for various cameo faves and cute girls, but how much of that transfers to the plot proper, that most people haven't and can't read?

    Volume 1 was boring and Volume 2 exists, but was nothing special. There hasn't been a CF-original character outside of the Classroom that I've found remotely fascinating.
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    canon finish apo vol 3

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    It’s way better than the mess that is Strange/Fake.

    So far far volume 1 and 2 are top among my favorite Nasu stuff all in all. In terms of both as a story and as ways to show off and round out the setting both in information and in the character of magi and their culture as a whole. I would say it’s top notch.

    That said my hopes are pointed towards Requiem. It’s something that can go oh so right or oh so terribly.

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    I've really, really enjoyed the two volumes translated so far, but I suppose it's not fair to judge the whole series on a fifth of its content.

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    People judge VN routes one by one or JoJo Parts by themselves to be fair. I would say it’s reasonable to give judgement on a part, and the sum both. But one should never neglect the sum no.

    As for an unpopular opinion Nobu is a stale very boring meme. She’s also not all that interesting as a character and she’s boring lore-wise as a servant.

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    Don't @ me if your fanfic doesn't even have Shirou/Illya shipping k thnx ItsaRandomUsername's Avatar
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    Before Case Files came out, there were no actual Luvia fans--just people who liked the idea of Luvia, and the concepts associated with her and the Edelfelt line. Otherwise she was a nothingburger topped with dank meme sauce. At least y'all have an excuse these days.

    Don't bring Astraea into this. She's a supersized meme.
    McJon01: We all know that the real reason Archer would lose to Rider is because the events of his own Holy Grail War left him with a particular weakness toward "older sister" types.
    My Fanfics. Read 'em. Or not.



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    But I was always a fan of luvia’s cest
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    The moment the opportunity arises for a pun, the one known as 'Taiga's Knight' will be there to deliver whether you like it or not.

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    There was enough before case files to enjoy a magic stealing wrestler hyena Ojou.

    But I might be like one of ten people who played Unlimited Code.

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