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    He cheated on Illya with a rando redhead he found in a wreck.

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    Agreed, he's simply in a polyamorous relationship. Hell he should ask ProJared for some advice.

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    But that implies he loved Maiya.

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    He definitely doesn't and that's another scummy thing right there
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly
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    I think Alex IV can eat Goku.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarlandGreene View Post
    Agreed, he's simply in a polyamorous relationship. Hell he should ask ProJared for some advice.
    True.

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    He definitely doesn't and that's another scummy thing right there
    Definitely also true. But Maiya was aware and accepting of that fact as well. No trust breached.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    I speak for the majority of important people* *a category comprised entirely of myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    True.

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    Definitely also true. But Maiya was aware and accepting of that fact as well. No trust breached.
    Pretty much what I was going to say, yeah. Kiritsugu's whole shtick was "sacrifice the few to save the many". That those few include practically everyone he ever loved or cared about (Natalya, Irisiviel, Illya, Maiya- heck, starting with his dad, even) only speaks of the depth of his conviction.

    So yeah, feel free to call him naive, stupid, cynical, ruthless, whatever. But not "cheater", "two-timer", or anything frivolous like that. He was The Least Frivolous Man In The World.
    shit BL says

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    It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.
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    boytoy angst > fulfilling life of misanthropic extremist environmentalism
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    ladies, he's single
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    Yeah, but that's because he's got more issues than National Geographic.
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    You can rage, but there is no waifu communism.

    You are not getting government-handout waifus.


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    He's still using her for his own benefit.

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    In point of fact, he's using her for the World's benefit, which is why she supports him in the first place.
    shit BL says

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    It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.
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    boytoy angst > fulfilling life of misanthropic extremist environmentalism
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    ladies, he's single
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    Yeah, but that's because he's got more issues than National Geographic.
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    You can rage, but there is no waifu communism.

    You are not getting government-handout waifus.


    Once and always and nevermore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    To head it off, yes, Irisviel is aware and doesn't mind, so it's not quite cheating.
    Between a Master under the protection of his Servant, and a magus that guards his headquarters all by himself, which one of those two enemies is easier to defeat? – Kiritsugu would definitely choose the latter. If another magus chose the same answer as Kiritsugu, he would certainly attack Irisviel, who remained in the castle, once he knew that Saber was fighting alone.

    She had finally met up with Kiritsugu, but they are about to be separated again; this made Irisviel very unsettled. She became more unsettled when she detected the pain and conflict Kiritsugu hid in his heart. However, she’s only a burden if she stays by Kiritsugu’s side. After all, meeting with Kiritsugu in the castle is already a breach of the rules they agreed on before.

    “…”

    Irisviel finally felt the root of her anxiety when she coolly thought things through in her heart. It wasn’t because of being separated from Kiritsugu, but because she has to move together with Maiya. Kiritsugu did originally plan to have Maiya protect Irisviel, but Irisviel still couldn’t get rid of her detest towards Maiya.
    “My deepest apologies. But please prepare yourself, madam.”

    “No problems. Don’t worry about me. You carry out your task. Not the orders Kiritsugu gave, but act on the things you think are necessary.”

    “Yes.”

    Come to think of it, perhaps she had already suspected. That was why she was afraid to confirm it.

    Now, Irisviel understood. The reason why she’s been avoiding Maiya… was not that she was afraid of her, but she was afraid to know her heart.

    She was afraid of the truth that she “wasn’t the only woman who cares about Emiya Kiritsugu”.  

    Irisviel cannot help but to laugh in the exultation that came with the approaching deathmatch. Pulling out her Calico submachine gun, Maiya gave her a glance of surprise.

    “– What’s the matter?”

    “The human heart is truly an amazing thing.”  

    Gambling her life for Kiritsugu – the fact that there is another woman with such determination other than herself.

    Clearly, the answer is supposed to be shocking. However, now – such a truth made her feel infinitely at ease.
    She's clearly not okay with it until HGW4. From how she frames it in her mind, she's either actively blocking out the thought or was unaware they have a physical relationship.
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    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Kind of reminds me of those sad trophy wives who know their rich husbands have tons of mistresses but drown out all negative thoughts with cheap gin

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    Hey

    dont knock gin. It’s good stuff
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    The moment the opportunity arises for a pun, the one known as 'Taiga's Knight' will be there to deliver whether you like it or not.

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    It's basically autohypnosis, a thing that appears a bunch in Nasu, and Gen uses it in this sort of surprising way characteristic to him. 'If I do this I'll be an asshole and be able to do different asshole thing even though I don't feel like being an asshole in this manner at all'. Same reason he started eating junk food before the war, to lower himself in his mind.

    If anything Irisviel's personality is under fire here, because she doesn't know why he's doing it and doesn't act out, which she really should. Makes her seem less human if you ask me.

    Or, well, I guess I at least like the absolute minimum human temperament necessary in my characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    Kiritsugu deserves better critics.
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    I don’t know if it’s just the translation but it’s a little messed up that it seems like Iri’s biggest problem isn’t that Kiritsugu is cheating but that another woman could love him lol

    Like, if he was just banging cheap floozies that’s okay? I dunno man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    I don’t know if it’s just the translation but it’s a little messed up that it seems like Iri’s biggest problem isn’t that Kiritsugu is cheating but that another woman could love him lol

    Like, if he was just banging cheap floozies that’s okay? I dunno man
    Is it weird that someone who is 9 mentally feels anxious at the thought she isn't the only person who could love this man she feels like only she could understand because they're married and have a kid?
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Well I guess that’s one of the reasons it’s messed up to date a 9 year old tbqh

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    homunculus mental and body development are not exactly comparable to that of humans, point in case: sieg.
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    Arc’s real master is a boy in a school uniform

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    yes the thing that gets compared to a baby is a shining example of maturity

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    Fate zero endorses questionable moral decisions and demonstrates poorly written motivations

    news at 11
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    I don't think we should have beasts as playable servants because it reduces the impact that they have as big civilization cancers.

    Also I think that it's hard to get a feel for Divine Spirits more now with all the watered down servant god characters that aren't really the divine spirits in power or personality.

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