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    Archetype Earth is essentially not Crimson Moon, right?

    I'm a little confused, let me see if I understood.


    Archetype-Earth is not Arcueid before consuming blood (time that the Roa knew her)
    It is not also the "usual" Arcueid that we know
    And it's also not, essentially Crimson Moon in fact


    To what I understood Archetype: Earth is a part of the Arcueid Conscience that follows the ideologies and ideas of Crimson Moon, but it's not really him.


    This is it?

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    It's her operating as a elemental
    As the brainz of the Earth
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    That's exaggerating my point.

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    Then is the will of the earth manifesting in Arcueid? Or is it an existence that fits into possible requirements to turn in Type-Earth?

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    It's Silicon-chan from Tsuki no Sango
    But Arc
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    That's exaggerating my point.

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    But she is not it an artificial intelligence created by humanity? Has a huge difference of time and worlds between Tsuki no Sango and Tsukihime if I'm not mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifreet23 View Post
    But she is not it an artificial intelligence created by humanity? Has a huge difference of time and worlds between Tsuki no Sango and Tsukihime if I'm not mistaken.
    Silicon-chan the brain of the moon that was given a body by people
    Princess Arc is the brain of the earth form of Arc with a body given by the earth
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    That's exaggerating my point.

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    Oh, I understand now, thanks!

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    What does that make Altrouge?

    Her Morgana?

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Silicon-chan the brain of the moon that was given a body by people
    Princess Arc is the brain of the earth form of Arc with a body given by the earth
    So is Silicon-chan sort of a TYPE Moon but in a human made body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    So is Silicon-chan sort of a TYPE Moon but in a human made body?
    Shes not Type-moon. She's just the brain of planet given a body.
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    In the future, when looking back on this crystal device that just shows people dreams, Moon Cell will be called thus.
    The Moon’s Eye.
    A bottomless Klein Cube.
    The observer of everything on our planet, and a Type-Moon whose master is no longer around.
    Quote Originally Posted by blut die schwadaasdfkjsaldf in extra mats
    Originating from the brain of the Moon, it is the embodiment of the Moon that after many years became the Earth’s touch. This avatar possesses Earth‘s Authority while also being a copy of the Moon.
    It simultaneously personifies the fundamental rules of both the Moon and the Earth, and by putting the rules of the Earth and Moon side by side it can use the discrepancies as a method of attack.
    Q: Is there any relationship between the Moon Cell and the Crimson Moon? Does the Moon Cell exist in universes outside of EXTRA?

    A: Moon cell is something that is only in EXTRA, and it does not have anything to do with the Crimson Moon. However, in the world of EXTRA, the "Brain of the Planet" (Archetype Earth's title) who is equivalent to the Crimson Moon should still be living somewhere.
    Whatever's inside silicon-chan is technically Arc's mum in the Extra world
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    Does that mean Extra Arc, and True Ancestors in general there, might not have the bloodsucking flaw?

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    It just means that Fate/ worlds are worlds where humanity is the dominant force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername View Post
    It just means that Fate/ worlds are worlds where humanity is the dominant force.
    Oh. I was kind of hoping different effects might happen to True Ancestors, considering a possible different template to base their creation off was found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    Does that mean Extra Arc, and True Ancestors in general there, might not have the bloodsucking flaw?
    going out on a limb and saying moon men love that sweet sweet human blood

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    Oh. I was kind of hoping different effects might happen to True Ancestors, considering a possible different template to base their creation off was found.
    Arc's profile in extra still talks about her as a vampire.
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    Has there been anything on what might have been the template for True Ancestors in Fate timelines outside of the EXTRA ones?

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    Presumably that'd still be Crimson Moon, as traditionally Tsuki and Fate were the same timeline until relatively recently in the meta. Considering the deal with Tarantella being Roa, that probably still holds post retcon.
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    I thought the divergence was around 300 AD according to Case Files, because something happened that prevented the DAAs from becoming DAAs.
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    Hmmm... not sure if that would make a difference in this case since Roa wasn't officially a DAA to my knowledge. That said, it's just a guess on my part. If my theory is wrong, I don't know what would serve as the model for TAs instead. Maybe humanity itself? You could perhaps justify the bloodsucking impulse as a side-effect for one reason or another, but there's no basis for such a scenario in the material, so it's just a wild guess.
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    Nah, CM still exists as far as I know.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    Agreed. But I'm pretty out of the loop, so it's always possible something came out contrary to what I remember since the days when I paid more attention. Actually trying to get better informed now.
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