She was a lost cause from the moment her art was finalized so it's a blessing her interlude focused on her strong point.
She was a lost cause from the moment her art was finalized so it's a blessing her interlude focused on her strong point.
Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart
Boudica had a fine little scene with Nero during Salomon but it was only one scene and long after Septem had already soured opinions on her.
Oh, I was so pissed when I saw what Shezzy became in FGO.
Odysseus was always my favourite Greek hero. I love heroes who get by by tricking everyone rather than just hitting people hard because Zeus slept with their mom.
Binged All Of Gundam In 4 Years, 1 Week and All I Got Was This Stupid Mask
FF XIV: Walked to the End
Started Legend of the Galactic Heroes (14/07/23), pray for me.
Same.
That said, I always kinda liked King Arthur, albeit mostly due to The Sword in the Stone and endless screenings of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
O walls, you have held up so much tedious graffiti that I am amazed you have not already collapsed in ruin.
tbh, if Aladdin were introduced into Fate, I'd probably have sth more to say myself. But he isn't, and probably won't ever be because Scheherazade. Along with Sinbad too.
I took a comparative lit course in fairy tales a long time ago.
We read some of the Arabian Nights and Rowe's, To Spin a Yarn: The female voice in folklore and fairy tale and her analysis of Scheharazade has always been what I've naively expected TM to do.
Alas.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
No, my grandfather still isn't in Fate.
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But Jeanne is, and I love Jeanne.
@You: Did you also study from Marina Warner?
Jeanne is ... well, there was always a genuine purity around her persona so they mostly got that right.
Personality wise, more a mix of that and sassy wit. She was no one's fool.
Stephen Colbert isn't in Fate either. Still not dead, though I would be sad if he did die...
Frankly, Arjuna disappoints me, he just feels so underwhelming...
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Karna was great though. Probably because he had a proper debut which is not in some sub-par FGO chapter.
CCC and then F/Ap. Karna fans are almost spoiled for choice.
My Fanfics. Read 'em. Or not.McJon01: We all know that the real reason Archer would lose to Rider is because the events of his own Holy Grail War left him with a particular weakness toward "older sister" types.
I agree. Pashupata should equal or exceed Excalibur in rank, though I do like the Fake Ultimate Hero angle they went with Arjuna. Everyone praised him and feted him, giving him all the gifts he needed to be great and pushing aside the competition, but underneath, there is a dark side ignored by the world, a shocking level of pettiness and dishonor that even he knows makes him imperfect.
Sorry if this sounded like a mess.
While I can respect them for being original and gave a twist to Arjuna's Perfect Hero character; I think they fail miserably at executing it properly and it ended up butchering his whole character.
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he's just a meme "annoying chuuni" now
I didn't think of it as a TM original twist so much as people acknowledging Arjuna's very obvious negative traits that Vyasa/the narrator of the original chooses to gloss over or doesn't quite care about. It does make sense in a way, considering what the perfect kshatriya was supposed to be, and how only one born a kshatriya could be it.
Fair point, I guess. But still, it's a bit too overemphasized, should've been more subtle and that his genuinely better personality should be more showing; after all, shouldn't a Servant (Especially Knight class, as said in FSF) represent the more positive and noble traits of their legend?
I guess I had my biases about Arjuna, especially since Javanese Mahabharata tales had quite significant differences compared to the original Indian one.
As an Indian, I mostly have been exposed to the original, and although I haven't read it through (a translated version, of course) in 10 years, as I've grown up, I've realized that most of Arjuna's good traits felt super informed to me, and his flaws stick out far more, especially his determination to be the best archer and the actions Drona took to make that happen. He was rather unimpressive, IMO.
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I've also heard in the Javanese version that Ghatotkacha plays a far bigger role and that Draupadi is only married to Yudisthra?
How is that a flaw? It was just that he was so good at archery and works so hard, that his teacher was so impressed, he promised that Arjuna would be the greatest archer. You're probably confusing Arjuna with Ashwatthama.
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though, for the latter, it's probably because the islamic influence javanese revisioned the tale as to make it more halal
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Nope dunno who that is lol.
We just read Maria Tatar's book for the class.
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Nope dunno who that is lol.
We just read Maria Tatar's book for the class.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
I'm referring specifically to how Drona outright sabotaged those who might rival Arjuna, such as Ekalavya and Karna. He had the former cut off his thumb and refused to teach the latter, and it was because he promised Arjuna the latter would be the best. Also, Arjuna did throw a hissy fit when Karna was equalling him in their first contest.
TM Arjuna is just a poor dude stressing himself too much over impossible standards
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