Translation Help Thread

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Blessing vs Protection

[castor212]

But then what about 祝福

[Mcjon01]

moonruners

how would you differentiate between 加護 (like the ones on the pharaohs) and 護り (like the one on Eresh)
i know the former is protection from higher lifeform like gods and buddhas and what not, while the latter is just protection, but in translation whats best way to put them and differentiate between the two? Calling it Divine Protection and Protection respectively feels somewhat inaccurate for some reason.

まもり ［3］ 【守り・護▽り】
①守ること。防備。 「 －を固める」
②神の加護。また，守り神。

does anyone one really know anything

[castor212]

Does that mean differentiating the two in english is unnecessary to begin with

[Canon]

does anyone one really know anything

Why isn't this in your sig yet

[John Dee]

Going over Goetia's Nega-Summon skill it says it can cancel all Noble Phantasms that symbols of a Heroic Spirit and then lists four in brackets (無効・無敵・吸収・削減). I tried translating them myself but I was wondering if anyone has a more accurate translation for the four listed.

[You]

mukou is nullified, the same kanji used for God hand's nullification or magic resistance
meteki is invincibility, its most commonly used in GO gameplay skills
kyushuu is absorption,
sakugen, is reduction or curtailment, I believe that's been used to describe the effect of K&K

[John Dee]

Thanks for the help, I've been following the Fate/Grand Order Mats thread for any new info translated from the recent FGO material release (especially for Solomon and Goetia), but nothing has come out after the Feb. 20th. I'm also an amateur compared to castor212, Clyton, and others on that thread so I've probably gotten something wrong in my own translations.

[You]

the only people here who aren't amateurs are mew, mcjon, and maybe arashi does a little translating for aniplex sometimes so it's okay

[Rafflesiac]

rip otherside and edreamer

Unless by Amateur you mean unpaid

[You]

Yup

There are definitely shitty pros too

[Paitouch]

the only people here who aren't amateurs are mew, mcjon, and maybe arashi does a little translating for aniplex sometimes so it's okay

please do not forget my friend arai who is living the karoshiman life as a translator

[John Dee]

I tried my hand at translating Avicebron's Tranquil Fig or Fig Tree of Tranquility skill from his FGO Wiki article (that hasn't been translated yet). Any feedback is appreciated:

Tranquil Fig/Fig Tree of Tranquility (Original JP)

伝説によると彼の詩才を嫉んだある男によって 殺され、イチジクの樹の根元に埋められたとされる。イチジクがあまりに甘美な実をつけるのを 不思議に思った人間たちが掘り返し、
男の罪が露見したと伝えられている。

Tranquil Fig/Fig Tree of Tranquility (My Translation)

According to legend he was killed by a man who was jealous of his poetry and was buried at the root of a fig tree. The people who wondered at the time why the fig tree's fruit was excessively sweet dug it up and legend says that the man's crime was exposed.

Tranquil Fig/Fig Tree of Tranquility (Second Translation with Help from Rafflesiac)

According to legend he was killed by a man who was jealous of his poetry and was buried at the root of a fig tree. Legend holds that the man's crime was exposed when people, curious as to the cause of the sweetness of the figs, unearthed it.

[mewarmo990]

The second sentence reads very weirdly to me but it's more of an editing issue. Seems like you understood it, though "excessively" is probably a bit... excessive.

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Yup

There are definitely shitty pros too

all "pro" really means is that you're on a deadline

[John Dee]

The second sentence reads very weirdly to me but it's more of an editing issue. Seems like you understood it, though "excessively" is probably a bit... excessive.

Thanks for the feedback. I thought the second sentence sounded okay at the time but looking at it know it does sound a bit weird. Maybe it should have been "People began to wonder at the time why the fig tree's fruit was so sweet dug it up and legend says that the man's crime was exposed." If you have a better way of wording the sentence for this or any future translations of mine don't be afraid to suggest it.

I'm also planning on doing Chiron's FGO skill "永生の奉献" which to me is either "Dedication of Immortality" or "Dedication of Eternal Life".

[Rafflesiac]

"Legend holds that the man's crime was exposed when people, curious as to the cause of the sweetness of the figs, unearthed it." is what I would think but calling me a TLer would be a disservice to TLers.

[John Dee]

"Legend holds that the man's crime was exposed when people, curious as to the cause of the sweetness of the figs, unearthed it." is what I would think but calling me a TLer would be a disservice to TLers.

That sounds a lot better. I think I'll update it making sure you get credit as well. Also don't sell yourself to short (granted I also do that to myself as well) your pretty good at crafting the sentence better than I originally did.

[John Dee]

My translation of Chiron's "Immortal Dedication"

Immortal Dedication (Original JP)

不死性を差し出すことによって、射手座へと昇華した逸話がスキル化したもの。星に昇華されたことで、彼は天 の蠍から人々を守る存在となった。

Immortal Dedication (My Translation)

By submission of immortality, the anecdotes sublimated to Sagittarius have become a skill. By being sublimated to the stars, he became an entity to protect people from the heavenly scorpion.

Immortal Dedication (My Translation, Alternate)

The anecdotes sublimated to Sagittarius have become a skill by submission of immortality. By being sublimated to the stars, he has become an entity that protects people from the heavenly scorpion.

I don't know if "sublimated" might be the right word used in these translations, but it's the only one I got when I ran it through other translation sites.

[TwilightsCall]

I wouldn't use Dedication in the skill name because it can give the impression of 'his dedication is immortal' rather than the accurate representation of 'offering up his immortality.' It strays from the kanji a bit, but I might go with something like Relinquished or Surrendered Immortality? I don't know, something like that.

I would probably do something like:

"The anecdote of Chiron giving up his immortality and ascending to the place of Sagittarius has become a skill. Having sublimated into a celestial figure, he became the one who protects mankind from the heavenly scorpion."

The only thing I disagree with your translation on a...translation level is the first part. The thing being 昇華した isn't the 逸話, it's the omitted subject (Chiron). Beyond that, I would avoid using the word 'submission' because it's pretty vague as to what that means in this context, especially if you don't know Chiron's story. I think it's better to be more specific. I threw in Chiron's name because English likes to have subjects even if Japanese doesn't, so it feels a lot more natural like that to me. I don't like using the word sublimated twice (feels ugly to me), so I swapped one of them for something else (the kanji here are "to rise up" and "splendor," so I think ascend is appropriate). And then the rest of the changes are just poetic license.

My two cents.

[John Dee]

I was used "Immortal Dedication" because it was one of the names used on two separate wikis for FGO (the other calling it "Consecration of Eternal Life").

But yeah I should try to craft a better sentence, it's becoming apparent to me that I'm to rigid and often I follow what I get when I run the original language through different translation sites. Out of all of them I tend to go with the one I get from Google (among the others) since it sounds better, if still a bit odd. Your's does sound better.

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It appears someone else also translated Avicebron's Tranquil Fig skill on the Type-Moon wiki

Tranquil Fig (Type-Moon Wiki)

According to legend, he was killed a certain man who was jealous of his poetry and buried at the root of a fig tree. It has been told that humans finding the fruit to be strangely excessively sweet, dug up the fig and sins of the man were exposed.