What if *insert Type-MOON character(s) of choice here* was raised by/in...?

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Mana doesn't force the door open, the spiritual presence of the Servants do.

[Alex Wyrmin]

Okay, but the reservoir drawing in mana from the Fuyuki leyline to fuel the summoning of the Servants and the granting of wishes is an imaginary space, right?

[Arashi_Leonhart]

I don't think those are one in the same thing. True of the Servant summoning mana, yes, CM3 says what isn't used goes into storage. The mana for wish-granting is a separate thing, existing on the "other side" on the pathway to the Root that the grail is meant to open up.

[Alex Wyrmin]

That actually helps me out. Since Hild comes from outside the Nasuverse, it could be said she passed through the Root on the way in, unwittingly so mind you. Given that during the Third Grail War the Grail couldn't be summoned, it's likely the way to the Root briefly opened when all the Servants were defeated, leaving Angra Mainyu stuck inside the imaginary space on the other side of the door. Until Hild came along and kicked him out of his haunt.

Does it make more sense expolained that way?

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Angra isn't stuck. Angra isn't even a person. He's a curse.

[Alex Wyrmin]

Maybe I should have said that 'Avenger' got stuck, because if he had returned to the Throne with the other six Fate/Zero would have been completely different. I agree with you on the true nature of Angra Mainyu.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

I don't think you quite understand. Nobody got "stuck" in the way you're thinking. Avenger is just some poor sod that got caught up in the HGW, got defeated early on, and the weird circumstances surrounding him painted the grail black in his curse. That curse later on gets personified, tries to get born into the world, but it isn't some guy hanging around in a huge cup stuck because he can't reach the lip to pull himself out.

[Alex Wyrmin]

Does that mean I have to delete the scene with Avenger blowing up along with Hild's old universe? If Avenger didn't get stuck, Hild couldn't swap places with him and in turn that scene doesn't make sense anymore.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

I dunno, I'm just saying that it's not like there's some kind of occupancy space in the grail that Avenger inhabits. I'm not joking when I said that it's like the ritual itself is stained in his gunk. That stain just happens to be trying to evolve into more than primordial mud.

[Alex Wyrmin]

In that case I have to either restart the fiction from scratch or invoke the Kaleidoscope (the Second Magic, not Zelretch in person).

[Christemo]

In that case I have to either restart the fiction from scratch or invoke the Kaleidoscope (the Second Magic, not Zelretch in person).

It's not like the Second Magic would somehow change anything. Infinite universes =/= infinite possibilities.

[hayate]

Infinite universes =/= infinite possibilities.

lolKaleidoscope?

Well, I think he's right. In my theory, if Zelretch will directly make an intervention in a scene that is supposed to be that way in the first place, the Counter Force will act.

And by act, I mean "take drastic measures".

[Siriel]

lolKaleidoscope?

The multiverse in Type-Moon specifically doesn't have infinite possibilities, as we have examples of things that are stated as never happening.

[hayate]

The multiverse in Type-Moon specifically doesn't have infinite possibilities, as we have examples of things that are stated as never happening.

Ah, so multiverse is not equal to infinite possibilities.

Thanks to you, my good man. Now I know the meaning of the quote by Christemo.

TOPIC: ON

WHAT IF...

Mana Ryougi is raised by HF True End Sakura?

[mrkingdomheartsboy]

Shirou raised by Touko Aozaki.

[TheInfamousMan]

What if Shirou was raised by Yondu from Guardians of the Galaxy?

[lhklan]

Shirou raised by Saitama. How would he fare?

[Fan_Fic_Reader]

Shirou raised by Saitama. How would he fare?

One Punch Shirou

[Agailius]

Shirou or Shinji raised by the Fonz. Leather biker jacket is mandatory.

[Der Ritter]

What if Shirou was raised by Yondu from Guardians of the Galaxy?

Is the inclusion of 60-80's Rock/Pop mandatory?

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The hell am I saying, of course it's mandatory!