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    I dont deny that they were there, i just say that they were there for symbolic reasons; its a callback on her becoming more human because earlier in the story she lamented beeing unable to shed tears for them. Still doesnt mean that she brcame an actual full human.

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    Question for anyone familiar with Nocturne. Does Surt have fire attacks for its regular attack? This is the only time I have seen a demon absorb a regular attack (when they have Absorb Fire) but not his skills like Deathbound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Question for anyone familiar with Nocturne. Does Surt have fire attacks for its regular attack? This is the only time I have seen a demon absorb a regular attack (when they have Absorb Fire) but not his skills like Deathbound.
    From the wiki:

    As a minion, Surt has the distinction of having the only fire-elemental based normal physical attack. His attack power can still be enhanced by Tarukaja and Focus, and when he is given the passive skill "Pierce", the effect will bypass resist, void and absorb properties of the Fire element instead of physical. When using a physical skill however, Surt will inflict standard physical damage and his normal attack can still be repelled by Tetrakarn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solomos View Post
    From the wiki:

    As a minion, Surt has the distinction of having the only fire-elemental based normal physical attack. His attack power can still be enhanced by Tarukaja and Focus, and when he is given the passive skill "Pierce", the effect will bypass resist, void and absorb properties of the Fire element instead of physical. When using a physical skill however, Surt will inflict standard physical damage and his normal attack can still be repelled by Tetrakarn.
    Strange. I've seen demons with Repel Physical be hurt by his regular attack, why does Tetrakarn change that? And why does Surt get that treatment anyway?

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    Sure wish I knew what was going on here. I mean besides the fact that they seem to be showing us everything we already knew beforehand. Though I guess this video confirmed human combat allies.
    Araya, what do you seek?
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    ------True wisdom.
    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
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    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
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    So Dominion casts Megido and Jonathan co-op attacked. Presumably that means co-op attacks are not triggered by weaknesses like demon co-op in SJ, unless the enemy in this case is actually weak to Almighty.

    Or maybe that wasn't even a co-op attack in that sense and I'm talking nonsense.
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    The other SMT game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hayate View Post
    He's the exception. We see him swimming in with the
    gold
    good
    waifus.

    He got his share of woes as with other players, but it has been overwhelmed by the sheer amount of different SSRs, both as F2P and P2P.

    I don't even wish to stand beside him as I got 2 consecutive IRs at my work the very same month after I got Jeanne.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriulio View Post
    Okay:

    First of all, a big FUCK YOU to everyone who got Holmes
    Second of all, a DOUBLE FUCK YOU at Laith because asahkwbebnfj,hhfshfls;
    Third of all, a TRIPLE FUCK YOU to people who quote Laith's gacha posts. THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING HIM IN MY IGNORE LIST IS TO PREVENT THIS
    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    fuck laith btw

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    I thought the other SMT game was If...

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    So you learn skills from demons when you level them up, the human allies help you when you fight bosses, and the Law faction doesn't immediately seem like a bag of dicks.
    Araya, what do you seek?
    「アラヤ、何を求める」
    ------True wisdom.
    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post

    the Law faction doesn't immediately seem like a bag of dicks.
    Hah, good one.

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    I know a bit far fetched. They probably just choose that quote because it makes them look good.
    Araya, what do you seek?
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    ------True wisdom.
    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

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    Eeh they start that way and then they become the biggest dicks.

    Except for Amane, she's the only one that's cool and a law character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hayate View Post
    He's the exception. We see him swimming in with the
    gold
    good
    waifus.

    He got his share of woes as with other players, but it has been overwhelmed by the sheer amount of different SSRs, both as F2P and P2P.

    I don't even wish to stand beside him as I got 2 consecutive IRs at my work the very same month after I got Jeanne.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriulio View Post
    Okay:

    First of all, a big FUCK YOU to everyone who got Holmes
    Second of all, a DOUBLE FUCK YOU at Laith because asahkwbebnfj,hhfshfls;
    Third of all, a TRIPLE FUCK YOU to people who quote Laith's gacha posts. THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING HIM IN MY IGNORE LIST IS TO PREVENT THIS
    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    fuck laith btw

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    I haven't really gotten to the Messians in Shin Megami Tensei 2 yet but in Strange Journey it went downhill at a fairly brisk clip. Nocturne I guess didn't really have an actual Law side.
    Araya, what do you seek?
    「アラヤ、何を求める」
    ------True wisdom.
    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    I haven't really gotten to the Messians in Shin Megami Tensei 2 yet but in Strange Journey it went downhill at a fairly brisk clip. Nocturne I guess didn't really have an actual Law side.
    Trust me, YHWH = Ass in SMT 2. Law in it isn't nearly so bad. There's a difference. In Nocturne I think the closest thing to a Law side is actually helping the Conception and one of the three Reasons, YHWH seems to just want the place to start fresh and doesn't care how they do it. Deciding to set things back to the way they were before seems to be sorta Neutral and kicking over the chess board and setting things on fire is the Chaos route.

    Come to think of it, has anyone ever tracked down that alleged statement by the writers that YHWH being such a bastard is a sign that there is something very wrong with the universe itself?
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    Forgot this. Why do all demons (angels especially) think they are so clever when they pick a pseudonym that is basically an alternate version of their name? At least in the case of Alucard it doesn't sound anything like Dracula, it's still not easy to spot but if you don't know the trick it takes longer then 1.5 seconds to figure it out.
    Araya, what do you seek?
    「アラヤ、何を求める」
    ------True wisdom.
    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post

    So you learn skills from demons when you level them up, the human allies help you when you fight bosses, and the Law faction doesn't immediately seem like a bag of dicks.
    I'm more surprised that Charon actually shown up in the flesh outside of Devil Summoner. Real deal Kuzunoha Kyoji was good friends with him. And the two of them pretty much just as planned the entire game. If he's here I'm kinda scared.

    Law faction not being a bunch of dicks has happened before in some games, iirc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/614/614484/

    Forgot this. Why do all demons (angels especially) think they are so clever when they pick a pseudonym that is basically an alternate version of their name? At least in the case of Alucard it doesn't sound anything like Dracula, it's still not easy to spot but if you don't know the trick it takes longer then 1.5 seconds to figure it out.
    Louis Cypher.
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    GLORIOUS CRUOR SENPAI RECOMMENDED THIS TO ME HE IS THE BEST USER EVER
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    1. Your favourite character and why.
    Curor, I mean the man likes DDD, he must have had a hard life, yet he's still trying so hard.
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    Cruor is so handsome and nice I want to brush his perfect hair and maybe caress his rosy cheeks. Now put me in your sig ya fuck
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    If only people praised me as much as they praise you, Cruor-sama!
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    Cruor is very nice

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    Isn't chiaki's Nocturne's Law side?

    I know she was the second best route after TDE.

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    …She was law-chaos.

    Also Freedom ending or bust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hayate View Post
    He's the exception. We see him swimming in with the
    gold
    good
    waifus.

    He got his share of woes as with other players, but it has been overwhelmed by the sheer amount of different SSRs, both as F2P and P2P.

    I don't even wish to stand beside him as I got 2 consecutive IRs at my work the very same month after I got Jeanne.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriulio View Post
    Okay:

    First of all, a big FUCK YOU to everyone who got Holmes
    Second of all, a DOUBLE FUCK YOU at Laith because asahkwbebnfj,hhfshfls;
    Third of all, a TRIPLE FUCK YOU to people who quote Laith's gacha posts. THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING HIM IN MY IGNORE LIST IS TO PREVENT THIS
    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    fuck laith btw

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    Everybody is an asshole though. Why would I want to basically do the route that supports teacher McUseless

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