Gilgamesh accepts Rider's offer

[bhl88]

Ionian Hetairoi is limited by Independent Action E- (only within the confines of the Reality Marble) and the inability to materialize Noble Phantasms.
Interview:

Nasu: The scary part is, some heroes in this army were stronger than the summoner Rider himself. Although Rider's deeds were great, it was not a testament of his personal martial prowess.
Sanda: So do they have basic Skills and Noble Phantasm as Servants?
Nasu: No, since they were summoned via Rider's skill, it was not necessary to assign them Class based on the rules of the Holy Grail War. However, since there is a limit to Rider's abilities, their Noble Phantasms could not be materialized. If Iskander's army of tens of thousands could pair up with Gilgamesh, who had unlimited Noble Phantasms, the result would be most ideal.

What would be the scenario if thousands of Heroic Spirits armed with top-tier Noble Phantasms (ranked A and higher, with Gilgamesh having Ea at hand) attempt to fight against the top tier above them (Type Earth, Counter Guardians, etc.)

[Iceblade44]

Rekt everything

[You]

Well it might not be thousands but there are at least a hundred Servants with NPs fighting against the 72 demon pillars in GO

[GhostWolf]

Wasnt this done before? Anyway i dont think it would change much..

LIke they would beat servants,some daa's but the top tier would kill all of them the same way.. Ort could probably ignore everyone of them,except maybe ea,Archetype would drop the moon on them and so on..

[bhl88]

Well it might not be thousands but there are at least a hundred Servants with NPs fighting against the 72 demon pillars in GO

I really want to see that.

Wasnt this done before? Anyway i dont think it would change much..

LIke they would beat servants,some daa's but the top tier would kill all of them the same way.. Ort could probably ignore everyone of them,except maybe ea,Archetype would drop the moon on them and so on..

What's the power level of Archetype again? I know they're around the top or so...

[GhostWolf]

AFAIK both archetype and ort are considered top tier.. But aside from them every type should handle the combo fine too..

[Neir]

I really want to see that.



What's the power level of Archetype again? I know they're around the top or so...

Iirc Gil would be less than a sneeze to ort

[You]

i mean
crystal valley sounds p dusty
sure

[eddyak]

Iirc Gil would be less than a sneeze to ort

I dunno about that. What I remember about ORT is just that it's harder than anything found on earth. But then blah blah blah conceptual blah blah greatest weapons of mankind blah vimana nukes ea probably something happens there.

[Tobias]

Power level wise, Gil isn't even close, but he has the power of being Nasu's waifu, so you have to think it would be close at the very least.

[RoydGolden]

Power level wise, Gil isn't even close, but he has the power of being Nasu's waifu, so you have to think it would be close at the very least.

Power levels have gotten pretty ridiculous as of late, with a bunch of Heroic Spirits fighting and defeating a being literally stronger then the planet, so who knows?

At the very least, I would not be surprised at all if ORT ends up getting the crap kicked out of its crystalline ass in some spin-off down the line...

[Lily Emilio]

Also remember we still have star level mofos lurking in the dark.

[bhl88]

Power levels have gotten pretty ridiculous as of late, with a bunch of Heroic Spirits fighting and defeating a being literally stronger then the planet, so who knows?

At the very least, I would not be surprised at all if ORT ends up getting the crap kicked out of its crystalline ass in some spin-off down the line...

Plus Rider, thousands of Heroic Spirits with A-class NPs is not a joke. Maybe they'd beat it with sheer numbers or something?

[RoydGolden]

Plus Rider, thousands of Heroic Spirits with A-class NPs is not a joke. Maybe they'd beat it with sheer numbers or something?

Hard to say, since for all the hype it's gotten we've never actually seen ORT in combat (or at all, really). Still, Crystal Valley allows for matter manipulation at a conceptual level which certainly sounds pretty hax. It's unclear if it'd extend to the level of, say, rewriting the matter inside your body for example. Plus lacking a concept of death, but Tiamat already shows that can be bypassed under the proper conditions.

Also, rather bizarrely, the character profile for ORT specifically bothers to mention how it isn't romanceable, of all things. Just in case anybody thought of banging the giant crystalline spider/eldritch abomination, I suppose...

[Lily Emilio]

I really want to see that.

Just play FGO to see that fight, I guess?

Power levels have gotten pretty ridiculous as of late, with a bunch of Heroic Spirits fighting and defeating a being literally stronger then the planet, so who knows?

If you're talking about Goetia, without Solomon's suicide attack they will fail to beat him.

[Magikewl]

Do not turn my beautiful FGO into your gross powerlevels

[Lily Emilio]

Plus lacking a concept of death, but Tiamat already shows that can be bypassed under the proper conditions.

Tiamat's concept is "Hey she cannot die as long as there are living beings here so how about we drop her to a place where no living things around! Genius!"
I'm pretty sure ORT is something else.

[Bobin]

The power of L O V E is evidently a force to be reckoned with. That ORT is immune to monmusu is like another piece of wank.

[RoydGolden]

Tiamat's concept is "Hey she cannot die as long as there are living beings here so how about we drop her to a place where no living things around! Genius!"
I'm pretty sure ORT is something else.

It's more then that, though. Even while in the underground, it still took King Hassan implanting a concept of death in her for the heroes to actually take her out.

ORT is described as being immune to the Mystic Eyes Of Death Perception, but Hassan's ability seems different as it's not evoking an existing line of death but effectively creating a new one altogether.

[Lily Emilio]

You need to drop her to the underworld so King Hassan's attack can work in the first place.

And wait for GO mats, I'm not a fan of headcanons.