You mean like the context you keep ignoring for Pete? He's narrowly dodged gunfire point blank while disoriented from poison and at one point when his spider-sense wasn't even working properlyOriginally Posted by 8000
Hell his first feat in Amazing Spider-man is catching a re entry rocket with this webbing, his performance fluctuates based on his state of being at the time. He's not a robot.
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i mean obviously you can react or punch faster than you can run.
how is that inconsistent if that just how speed works.
Peter, in general, beats down Servants. The number of high-tier Servants may warp the perception of what an average Servant is, I guess.
Also, yeah, great way to compare Peter to a Servant strength-wise by using Heracles. This sounds to me much more impressive than what an average Servant could do.
I wasn't ignoring any context for relevant showings? You're the one bringing up feats for Spider-Man so I'm not sure what you mean.
I'm not familiar with that feat, but if you've admitted Spider-Man's performance fluctuates, why do you have an issue trying to weigh average showings? How would you determine what level he operates at most of the time?
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It's the scale of the disparity. If Lobo moving at 200 KMPH is a big deal, no servant should ever be able to tag Gilgamesh who can lightning time because their limbs would move too slow. The gap between combat and travel speed is not that big.
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We've seen Saber somewhat able to block blows from Hercules and push him back while extremely nerfed. Average servants should have some degree of relativity to him bar ones with specifically low strength and durability.
Average servants would get Pasted by Heracles. Saber actually was getting wrekt until she got a mana infusion.
Gilgamesh can't move at lightning speed, his reaction was at lightning speed. There's a difference between the two.
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She was getting beaten down, but she still managed a couple decent hits. She was hardly pasted.
It depends on what you consider an average servant.
Are you implying that Altria or motherfucking Heracules are anywhere near average Servants? And even if you're comparing average Servants to Peter, he still stomps them quite easily.
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Oh, pray tell, who are average Servants in your mind.
I know. What I was saying if a servant doesn't have enough movement speed to move their limbs at a somewhat comparable speed, they would never hit him. Movement speed needs to be decently relative to reaction speed or no one would ever be able to tag each other.
Her back was half gone and she was bleeding out while trying to prop herself up. If you think that isn't getting handled I don't know what to say.
Shirou's weakened Saber? I would consider her an average servant.
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She blocked blows from him and pushed him back...I did not say she was on his level but it's still a feat.
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Truthfully I think someone like Cursed Arm would be more than enough for Peter, but to be fair there's an argument that servants aren't consistently fast enough that he would scale to that level. What I wish is that someone would actually argue that.
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Not sure what the issue is? She was clearly inferior to Hercules who's actually top tier and was nearly toyed with by Kojiro. She has good feats but I wouldn't consider her above Emiya overall (though she has somewhat better stats). Emiya would be an average servant to me. Saber with a proper master is obviously above that.
Ah, I see we're back to the point in this thread's lifecycle where people try to take evocative turns of phrase completely seriously.
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But...no?
Kojiro is also a terrible example since not only does he have extraordinary skill but Saber couldn't even use her NP.
The discussion's gone a bit off topic into some debate about what an average servant is. I was just asking where people rate servants in strength and durability. I'm genuinely curious.
Can we agree that one way or another Cu beats Spider Man
kay cool thanks
Yeah pretty much.
No.
Because Marvel comics allowed for sillier things to happen.
Yes please.
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