The Type-Moon Miscellaneous Thoughts Thread

[Snow]

Too late, I already headcanoned the hell out of this for my Ryougi erotic asphyxiation 2017 unused prompt fill fic.

[SpoonyViking]

Something that's literally asleep except to monologue when its snowing doesn't really have an influence on the subtext of the rest of a story

Eh, "she" claims to be the reason for Shiki's murderous drive, wouldn't seem far-fetched to me.

also void is not repeat not a 'personality' in the way it is generally understood, [...]

Yes, well, sometimes I favour ease of writing over accuracy.
Thanks for your quote, but if memory serves, didn't you once claim your dissertation on the topic was done as a joke?

[Dullahan]

probably now the more relevant feature of the post is that it was written by a retard called 2014 dullahan, don't listen to him

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that said it's still true that the strongest reading you can make of knk as far as sex is concerned is on ideological grounds

[SpoonyViking]

I see. Thanks again, then! And if 2018 Dullahan wants to talk about the topic as well, I'd be interested.

[Dullahan]

not a lot to say really, as far as text goes things are generally subordinated to this male/female dichotomisation they set up with shiki/SHIKI, other characters fold off that eg the conversation in 5 which ends with azaka throwing a book at mikiya's head (it's just like one of my japanese animes!)

you have a bit of mimetic desire going on with characters like fujyou - ties into the whole geodesic model of characterisation knk uses where shiki is left generally opaque in some parts so that the antagonist of that particular part can 'fill in the blank' so to speak - but I decline to do the writeup now

probably the most interesting thing going on is with lio & his crossdressing - this is unexamined in the work, book and film generally - the licking scene has a lot more going on than is probably the takeaway for most

ultimately the ideological project of the thing is reaffirmation of a traditional domestic sphere & associated norms which is necessarily repressive - some desires have to be restrained in order to sustain the normal situation, the nichijou - extremes of death-drive and of libido are subject to the same logic here, that's the general approach you can take

there may be some general cultural comment discernible in things like the rape in 3 and prostitution in 6 (this is novel-only, the movie changed it for no good reason) but it's inchoate and it'd be some work to draw out nuances

to come closer to an answer to your actual question, her killing intent is not explicitly sexualised in text as her tsukihime counterpart is so notorious for exhibiting; i get a general sense that it's understood at a more basic level, pre-symbolic animal instinct, but w/e

[SpoonyViking]

I see, I see. Thanks yet again!

[hayate]

also void is not repeat not a 'personality' in the way it is generally understood, this is precisely why at least half of epilogue is spent explaining what 'personality' means

Ah, that explains "persona derived from the body instead of the mind".

Also wow.

Thanks for the theory, now I see KnK as a diary of someone who's into AA nowadays.

[Dullahan]

this week on oprah's book club it's How I Overcame Pathological Nymphomania And Married My High School Sweetheart: A Story of Hope, by R. Shiki

[asterism42]

too easy

So what's Fujino? Experimental phase?

[hayate]

So what's Fujino? Experimental phase?

Forgot to ask about Kirie Fujou and Kuramitsu Merca too.

But then again, the theory is made on 2014.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Eh, "she" claims to be the reason for Shiki's murderous drive, wouldn't seem far-fetched to me.

That's not the personality. That's the philosophy. The personality is just this sleeping thing that shows up twice and influences once more.

[LJ3]

Manager at work watched Fate and knows anime. Play a game where he guesses if a person is shown as a Servant

“Is Caesar in?”

”Uh, yeah!”

”How about Leonidas?”

”Yeah, he’s in too.”

”Man, it’d be really cool if Atilla the Hun was in!”

”... yeah.. aha...”

[Rafflesiac]

Now I'm curious what other pop culture interpretations of Attila the Hun there are. The only I remember was where Attila was a swarthy dude who helped Santa make Christmas along with a bunch of other historical figures.

[SpoonyViking]

I remember him only in the "Hagar the Horrible" comics and the "Night at the Museum" movies (had to confirm it was him in the latter, not Genghis Khan).

[Reign]

I really like Altera's background but making her Attila feels like such a weird choice.

[Trubo]

Random thought in the toilet

>Saber uses IAed Excalibur, a lot of oomph, and presumably maryoku burst with still p filled maryoku tank, with maximum effort.
>it pierces GH. GH doesnt proc. So that attack of Saber is A rank. Saber sugoi.
>which means... Herc tanked an A rank attack with purely the CON on his hand without his hand only got oierced and not gotten pulverized.... (?)

Feels like an indirect wank to Herc. Or maybe not, because Herc.

Nothing has ever been said that A Rank attack means Herk dies. Only that the only way to kill/hurt Herk is with A Rank attack(s).

[Rafflesiac]

Herk still has A-rank END even ignoring God Hand, dude's beefy

[Arashi_Leonhart]

I mean, it's a sword, it's not like it was a rocket launcher. I'm pretty sure an A-ranked attack with a toothpick would've still just made a small hole.

[Mcjon01]

I mean, it's a sword, it's not like it was a rocket launcher.

I know what you mean but it’s still kind of funny when you’re talking about Excalibur

[castor212]

Im just saying

Thats a very manly hand