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  1. #4041
    [ ] Offer something else worthy of her time:
    Offer his house as payment.

    We are gonna lose our haouse anyway.

    [ ] Consult with Aozaki Touko about his performance thus far, and ask about the odd sigil around his Command Seals

    We don't need nice words we need to true and only our master would be useful for that in this moment.

    [X] Rebuild his ofuda stash as best he can

    [X ] Spend time trying to get used to his new abilities (Fairy Eye, Shield, etc)

    [ ] Sajyou Ayaka
    [ ] Rachelle Lestrange
    [ ] Elesa Labelle
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  2. #4042
    [x] Agree to collect an artifact for her

    I'd be polite and give former Master the thing she mentioned first. Being polite with Touko is an important survival skill.

    [x] Try to fix damaged armor together with Luna.

    [x] Consult with Aozaki Touko about his performance thus far, and ask about the odd sigil around his Command Seals
    [x] Spend time with Luna, to put his mind in order
    [x] Work on Potions

    We need to improve our brewing at any cost. Restocking ofuda may be nice, but recuperation after new PTSD event seems more urgent.

    [x] Rachelle Lestrange
    [x] Ramona Ahgeak
    [x] Elesa Labelle

    A friend in need to check; former teammate, whose abilities complement ours and foretold ally.

  3. #4043
    [X] Agree to collect an artifact for her

    Sure it will be an adventure to get it (horrible one likely) but it something for him to attempt to get. I am assuming she has a known item and its not just go and find something for me quest.

    Three reason why the mansion as payment likely would not work.

    1) Touko has no reason for wanting the place. But maybe she would not say no to the amount of money it represents.
    2) The Mansion is registared with the British Wizard Ministry and thus requires a Wizard to be the owner of the house since it falls under their jurisdiction. Remember a while back we could not add Rin to the list cause she is not considered a witch. Touko might work but it would be rather sketchy,
    3) Shinji is no longer the sole owner of the place. Remember that he had the other stone cutters to the deed in case he died. Thus the selling of the place would require their approval in. So shinji can not promise this place.

    [X] Spend time with Luna, to put his mind in order
    This is the most important of all three. It has been proven time and again that Shinji can not function/get work done if his mind is not focused. And considering everything that happen to him, Shinji needs to spend time with Luna to get his head back in the game. I do not care what else we end on doing but if we do not at least pick this option, then Shinji will not do well. Mental status of Shinji is everything.

    [X] Rebuild his ofuda stash as best he can
    It is his main skill. We felt the pressure when he has nothing in this department. Flow is so gosh darn useful we need to pick this.

    [X] Spend time trying to get used to his new abilities (Fairy Eye, Shield, etc)
    We paid a price for these fancy new toys. Shinji needs to learn how to best use them ASAP. They might save his life.

    So yeah I did not pick potions. It would be nice but hopefully Shinji can get an ally like Lestrange that will be able to cover this part of the prepwork. We do not have time to focus on both potions and ofuda and well Ofuda is more important. And now I do not have Budge yelling at me saying otherwise. Screw working on some grand project, Shinji needs to live first and foremost. A week of brewing is not going to make him better, its just going to get him a few more potions to use. Ofuda prep is better.

    I am neutral on the asking Touko option. It could be useful. I can see swapping the training with the new toys with talking with her. But I do put more need in my head on learning how to use the toys at the moment.

    [X] Rachelle Lestrange
    [X] Elesa Labelle
    [X] Ramona Ahgeak


    In that order of importance. I feel weird not picking sempai Ayaka here but of Ayaka/Elesa I am far more curious about and feel a more urgent need to talk to Elesa. Ramona beats out Ayaka in my head because one, Shinji/Ramona worked well together. Ramona works will with Elesa. And I would like to at least talk with Ramona and capsulize on the good relations we built over the OSE. Ayaka sadly needs none of Shinji's help to work with him.

  4. #4044
    hmm, after some consideration, I'll change my vote to

    [x] Rebuild his ofuda stash as best he can
    [x] Spend time with Luna, to put his mind in order
    [x] Work on Potions

    Tested and proved skills over the exotic thing we have no idea how to use. We'll add new tricks to our skillset later - likely with Lockhart/Tomas help, for now, it's too unreliable.

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    [x] Agree to giving up his favor from Sion.

    No, let's not go on an extra fetch quest when we already have one as our priority. Plus, you want Touko to be motivated, nothing better than a favor from Sion for that (Maybe that's even good enough for her to offer to repair your underarmor for free).

    [x] Suggest a price - Offer Ring of Fire as payment.

    He is not her student anymore so good will isn't gonna work. If it ever comes, it will be spontaneous and coming from herself, Shinji puppy dogs ain't gonna cut it. She's not that naive and Shinji shouldn't expect extra kindness. And we need any protection we can get at this point, so I'm going with an offer even if I suspect my former vote should take care of extra service as well.

    I'm willing to swap for something else if you guys prefer to offer something else instead. (fading potion, Lockhart knives, etc...)


    [x] Consult with Aozaki Touko about his performance thus far, and ask about the odd sigil around his Command Seals.

    Because we need to understand what that seal is, if we are to find out the connection with the Illuminati and Elesa. Thus a necessary step for fulfilling Sion's request. MANDATORY.

    Like, I get you guys want to learn how to use your new toys, but he is not in the best condition, nor right mind for training anyway. He will need the extra rest he can get, but he can still look into the Illuminati sub-quest in the meantime.

    [x] Spend time with Luna, to put his mind in order.

    We need the mental rest and support. MANDATORY.

    [x] Rebuild his ofuda stash as best he can.

    MANDATORY. DON'T EVEN ARGUE.

    [x] Rachelle Lestrange.
    [x] Ramona Ahgeak.
    [x] Elesa Labelle.


    Ayaka won't even consider it. We have nothing of value to bring. I would normally have considered Ka'au but our odds to win are too low at this point. So I'll prioritize fulfilling Sion's quest. And we can't do that without Elesa. Ramona also edges over Ka'au because she's Elesa's bestie and her skill set sync better with Shinji. (Plus more chances to learn about the whole Illuminati sub plot)
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  6. #4046
    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    MANDATORY. DON'T EVEN ARGUE.
    Don't tempt me, I will find an argument that can be made against this thing that I still support. Just on principle here.

    [x] Suggest a price - Offer Ring of Fire as payment.
    While I will admit that the thing is not that great but I am not sure that will work. One tomas is the one that gave it to him remember, so the value is known to Touko easily. Not sure it matchs payment at all. Plus come on it helps with mental defense, something we need sorely when his partions have been destroyed. It might help keep him together.

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    Like I said, I'm willing to swap the ring for something else. Alf, now is the time to list what we have on offer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    Like I said, I'm willing to swap the ring for something else. Alf, now is the time to list what we have on offer!
    Ring of Fireballs
    Phial of Light
    Elixir of Restoration (sample)
    Other potions (including Felix)
    Black Dagger
    Goblin-forged Dagger
    Mystic Eye Killer Contacts
    Various Catalysts (Desk made from Golden Hind Timbers, Books by Paracelsus)
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  9. #4049
    Guys, maybe we should focus on the most important problem here - Fusion. Seriously, fixing up that spiritual damage/establishing connection with Zelkova is even more important than ofuda action, by a large margin. And guess who is one of the world's most renown experts on spiritual matters? Hint: she is right here.

    [x] Touko dojo.

    I'll type the rest later. But basically, we need fusion/unfucking the spiritual damage, ofuda and productivity. New toys can wait. Potions won't help us. Need to play to our strengths.

    Also also: giving up the favor seems too much like a betrayal to me. Sion gave it to us as a major sign of trust, don't turn it into a business transaction.
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  10. #4050
    Choice 314: [X] See if someone else has a comparable replacement for an outer layer. But sign a geass contract promising future payment of a determined monetary value/or its equivalent in a good for repairing the underarmor with Touko

    Idea here is that we need this armor layer fixed. Fine sign a promise note with Touko so that its fixed. But I still think we should at least see if we can aquire some outer layer armor from maybe an ally or person that we have a strong relationship with. Maybe we get it, maybe we don't but at least we have the Touko armor fixed.

    Please swap out my vote for
    [X] Spend time trying to get used to his new abilities (Fairy Eye, Shield, etc)
    for [x] Consult with Aozaki Touko about his performance thus far, and ask about the odd sigil around his Command Seals.
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    Zelkova is tired. You'll get back fusion when he can use astral projection again, meaning when he is rested. He has a week , you let him recover. Maybe Luna will help out smoothing the process, but there's nothing to do about it for now.

    Also no, Touko isn't a spiritual matter specialist. She is good at puppets and mystic eyes.

    Giving the favor is an understandable business move (it's what magi do, get used to it) considering he gets back two freaking limbs for it. Sion also sent Touko to the Isle to be her eyes. You think she doesn't want Shinji to get fixed up? Sion needs Shinji to be operational in order to FULFILL HER REQUEST. You know? The whole reason Shinji even went through the trouble of passing tests, studying like crazy and risking his life to get on that Isle in the first place.

    And that would not even be the first time Shinji passes a reward from Sion onto another person. Remember that Elixir of Life? That was not betrayal then, and it is certainly not now. She owes us one, now she owes Touko instead. Big fucking deal.

    Swap vote for underprotection;

    [X] See if someone else has a comparable replacement for an outer layer. But sign a geass contract promising future payment of a determined monetary value/or its equivalent in a good for repairing the underarmor with Touko
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  12. #4052
    Wow, things got hectic over the past few days.

    If I may, was there a change in the nature of Sion's request? Last I checked, the goal she assigned us here was to use the event as an opportunity to learn and gather experience.

    Considering this, and the fact that Sion is someone Shinji values very much and is valued in turn, taking on a fetch quest might just be another way for us to learn more. Also, trading away a favor we were given by a close friend and benefactor or a gift that was specifically given to us is bad form, and may hurt us with Sion down the line.

    As such, [x] Agree to collect an artifact for her might be one of the safest options we have while still getting something out of it.

    The underarmor is a little trickier, as I am actually unsure of our current reputation status with it. Would it be possible, Alf, to check if it is actually likely at all that she'd be willing to repair our underarmor if we're already doing a request for her?

    Recovery and resupply are very important part in combat logistics, as well as familiarization of the tools we have available. At first glance the following are what might benefit us most:

    [x] Consult with Aozaki Touko about his performance thus far, and ask about the odd sigil around his Command Seals
    [x] Rebuild his ofuda stash as best he can
    [x] Spend time trying to get used to his new abilities (Fairy Eye, Shield, etc)

    However, should Zelkova need recovery and us to get our mind in order, then we may have a problem. Alf, would it be alright to ask what may have happened to our dear Familiar, and what we'd need to do to get access to him again. Or is he simply exhausted after our encounter with the Djinn?

    After everything we've been through, especially considering what we just did to help the girl out, I'd say [x] Rachelle Lestrange is our best option upfront. The biggest issue, however is going to end up being whether she'll be in a position to participate or not considering what had happened.

    As a show of good faith ─ and since Rachelle had been her teammate for that leg ─ [x] Elesa Labelle may, too.

    [x] Ayaka Sajyou is one I'd recommend just on the grounds that she's on of our mentors, and we can at least offer her use of the Book of Potions as either a bargaining chip, or a favor from a friend.

  13. #4053
    I should be surprised that it is hard to see the distinction between letting the other person use an open ended favor and saving the life of our friend's most important person - but somehow I am not. Maybe other voters will see it my way.

    Also, last I checked, Touko was the expert in manipulation of spiritual body, that's the whole point behind her puppets. See her perfect puppet body, for example. Whether her skills are applicable here is another matter entirely.

    Not so interested in discussing Nasu lore interpretations...

    Right, about Fusion. If you are really sure that it can restore naturally, then we just need to double down on Luna and, ahem, mental health activities. Hope she will provide more insight for the matter.

    EDIT. Lockhart'ed. Or whatever local meme we use for ninja activities, heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_Trickster View Post
    If I may, was there a change in the nature of Sion's request? Last I checked, the goal she assigned us here was to use the event as an opportunity to learn and gather experience.
    Data from the ruins at the center (inside the temple that lies underneath).

    Also, last I checked, Touko was the expert in manipulation of spiritual body, that's the whole point behind her puppets. See her perfect puppet body, for example. Whether her skills are applicable here is another matter entirely.
    She does nothing when it comes to the soul. It's the planet that revives her automatically because the fact that Touko is still there (puppet) overwrites the fact that Touko isn't there (previous puppet). She doesn't die because there's still a functional receptacle for the soul. But she isn't doing anything about that. It's simply an effect she found out after she created her first copy.

    It's the same shit with Ciel, only Touko has to create a new receptacle once a new unit awakens.

    Not so interested in discussing Nasu lore interpretations...
    If you are not, then don't bring up the point in the first place.

  15. #4055
    ...Not interested because it's not Nasu world. Duh. But yeah, you are right. Pretty sure Alf has already elaborated - somewhere - on Touko's abilities in this fusion, so no point repeating it.

    Suffice to say, she can help us since its brought up, but it's not her main area of study.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_Trickster View Post
    However, should Zelkova need recovery and us to get our mind in order, then we may have a problem. Alf, would it be alright to ask what may have happened to our dear Familiar, and what we'd need to do to get access to him again. Or is he simply exhausted after our encounter with the Djinn?
    He has gone dormant after dealing with the Jinn, given the prana drain, the fact that he, like Shinji, incurred spiritual damage from the forced summoning of Perseus into Shinji's body, and other such. The fact that the staff still works means that he's still alive and capable of at least some basic level of processing, though IC, Shinji has no idea how long recovery would take.
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  17. #4057
    Alf, if you are feeling generous with retreading the old ground today... Can Touko help us with ameliorating spiritual damage? Familiar connection?

    EDIT. Well, now it's official, I can't use this thread search. Why does it give me the link to the thread, and not to the post containing the words I've used? It's either too complicated for me or for my phone, and I'm not too inclined to blame the device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malorius View Post
    ...Not interested because it's not Nasu world.
    It is a cross over that uses characters from the Nasuverse. And we're discussing Touko.

    Pretty sure Alf has already elaborated - somewhere - on Touko's abilities
    You do realize that this is a place where people discuss typemoon? That means the majority of people have at least a basic understanding of the characters. And If I feel the need to state something that basic, it's because you clearly lack that data.

    But if that's your attitude when people are willing to explain things to you, fair enough. There won't be a next time.

    Suffice to say, she can help us since its brought up, but it's not her main area of study.
    It's not a matter of helping at this point. The familiar needs to recover. The most suited (and probably only one on the Isle, besides maybe Ayaka) to help with that is Luna, and she would have a better understanding of Zel's condition than Shinji.

  19. #4059
    If you say so. I am just unwilling to let this thread degenerate into another «But this obscure Nasu quote totally indirectly implicates that you are wrong!» discussion. I am happy with the bits of applicable information, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malorius View Post
    Alf, if you are feeling generous with retreading the old ground today... Can Touko help us with ameliorating spiritual damage? Familiar connection?
    The spiritual damage is being dealt with via doses of Elixir of Restoration. The familiar connection, possibly.
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