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    If I were writing a TM novel I'm definitely the kind of person Narita seems to be, and would try to keep everything as consistent as possible despite the official statement of it being different timelines. It'd bug me too much otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    >not shipping them from the start

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    nobuyuki fukumoto spinoff set in van-fem's casino when?

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    SO many things translated of the volume 6 and here I'm waiting for a full version of the 5 volume, DX

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
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    oh ya I forgot to ask about that. Thanks for the translation.
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    Thanks How did Jester react to all that?

    Has Saint Germain ever been mentioned again?

    Is there anything on Watcher being described as female in lore(from the profile) in the book or anything describing her appearance as a giant whale? Or are people who never seen the manga going to be confused by her profile picture?

    Does Pale Rider ever take any damage? Or do they say anything about if any Servant or Mage can just go up to the black shadow thing and damage or kill it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holiday View Post
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    Wait, so the Banquet of Kings that Prelati shows Richard has different dialogue than in Fate/Zero? What are the main changes?
    Spoiler:
    AYAKA thinks about the illusory scene she saw.
    As the three kings drank together, they each king shared their own perspective.
    The golden Hero King said, "The path of a king is based on the rules he himself sets up."
    The red haired Conqueror King said, "The starting point of kingship is one's own body. Conquer and overrun all the wealth and knowledge from far and wide.
    And the azure and argent Knight King said, "For a king to save their country, they should sacrifice themselves on the road of righteous ideals."
    The Knight King also proclaimed the wish she entrusted the Holy Grail.
    "I want to return to the time when I drew the sword of selection. If there is someone who would be a more appropriate king, I shall hand it over to this person so they may redo Britian's history."
    She had heard about King Arthur's choice to take up the sword of selection from Richard's mother, telling him bedtime stories.
    It seemed the Knight King thought if there was better person than she, who ended up destroying her country, they they ought to carry the burden of kingship.
    However, upon hearing the Knight Kings words the Conqueror King smoldered in anger, golden king laughed.
    Full of anger, the Conqueror King refuted her by saying she had "responded her nation's prayers for salvation," and "a selfless king cannot lead a nation. Citizens do not yearn for a slave to righteousness."
    -"Sacrificing everything about yourself for what is correct. There's no person who can live like that."
    -"Conqueror King, are you saying the rule of one who stops being human is inferior to that of a human?"
    -"Kuku. O'Knight King, then you would be forcing your way beyond what is human, to the realm of the gods."
    -"Why are you laughing Hero King. If that was possible with a human body, why hesitate?"
    -"Really? I know a goddess, whose unreasonable incarnation tried to rule a country according to what she believed was right."
    -"Hey, Knight King. I know I might have been called a descendant of Zeus, but..."
    -"The path that follows the righteousness of a god ends with you screening your own nation."
    The conversation continued for a little while. But before the Knight King could put in her last words, an assailant appeared and put an end to the dialogue.

    Camelot foreshadowing and some god stuff
    Last edited by You; January 13th, 2020 at 06:27 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Those that got to read the novel, do you guys have any theory on
    Spoiler:
    Who's the person summoned by QSH's crossbow?
    I've seen in the chinese discussions, the most prominent theory seems to be it was Xu Fu or archer QSH
    And they keep mentioning the story of how, on Zhifu island, QSH took a crossbow and shot down a sea monster/god that Xu Fu told him was blocking his way to Mt. Penglai

    I wanted to ask what you guys think about it or if you have any theory yourselfs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHP View Post
    Thanks How did Jester react to all that?


    Has Saint Germain ever been mentioned again?


    Is there anything on Watcher being described as female in lore(from the profile) in the book or anything describing her appearance as a giant whale? Or are people who never seen the manga going to be confused by her profile picture?


    Does Pale Rider ever take any damage? Or do they say anything about if any Servant or Mage can just go up to the black shadow thing and damage or kill it?

    Spoiler:
    When Jester gets out dreamland he's near Sigma and the Kuroka. He switches to a werewolf and runs away. His new goal is to make Assassin his bride AND wake up ORT.
    Quite a bit. There's a flashback that's a talk between Richard and Saint Germain where they talk about heroes. And Saint Germain tells Richard, like Mordred, he's going to fight his father.
    The whale thing is threaded in quite a bit. Certain Servants notice that they feel what seems to be a giant whale watching them. We know its female because Waver gives Flat a lecture on underworlds and goes rather Campbellian, saying the underworld or what is also know as the "belly of the whale" is the place of rebirth into a hero. And it would seem the darkness of the underworld or the belly of the whale represents the womb. Hansa makes note of the story of Jonah and the whale.

    Pale Rider is with Tsubaki in the Kuroka house, no one other than Sigma and Jester are there.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    Those that got to read the novel, do you guys have any theory on
    Spoiler:
    Who's the person summoned by QSH's crossbow?
    I've seen in the chinese discussions, the most prominent theory seems to be it was Xu Fu or archer QSH
    And they keep mentioning the story of how, on Zhifu island, QSH took a crossbow and shot down a sea monster/god that Xu Fu told him was blocking his way to Mt. Penglai

    I wanted to ask what you guys think about it or if you have any theory yourselfs?
    All indications point to a person/god related to that incident.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    All indications point to a person/god related to that incident.
    Cool, thanks
    Now I wonder if Sigma's gonna
    Spoiler:
    shoot down Watcher with the crossbow as a reenacment of the crossbow legend
    Maybe as a final trail to become True Lancer, truly he has the best NP for that class LOL

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    Spoiler:
    Hippo's Saint Graph itself seems buffed and the Prelati's wonder if that's because Doris has broken the taboo and gone to the extreme of reinforcement, reinforcing her crest and her circuits.
    The general principle of reinforcement already read as being completely broken in application but this takes it even further.
    But Hansa told Van Fem about the Jester's attack on the police station where Jester told them he was a Dead Apostle, a being that denied the Human Order but at the same time he's in love with Assassin who's the embodiment of the Human Order. For some reason this double standard is a no-no among top Dead Apostles and that's why Van Fem now considers Jester an enemy.
    Wow, now they even have a rule against forbidden relationships. Makes sense in context but it's funny how dramatizing it is that the sentiments of DA/Humanity being opposing forces carry even into personal interests for those up the ladder.
    "Umm, you know, your body is - " Hynn, but the sound of the cutting wind was faster. The boy named Flat's torso painted AYAKA's field of view red. And a moment later, bang, the sound of something smashing into the asphalt. "Eh?" Did the voice belong to AYAKA or Flat? Flat fell to his knees. "...Flat?" Jack's voice echoed.He was wary of the magus called AYAKA. Saber or another Heroic Spirit may have attacked. Although Jack and Flat trusted the policemen around them, it didn't change the fact this was first contact with Saber. But Flat's shooting had nothing to do with the Saber camp. He was shot at long range without any magical energy. Jack who had lost a large portion of his power didn't have anything that could directly protect his Master from modern warfare. "A..." Flat looked at the hole in his stomach. He was able to calmly analyze the wound - the shooter was on a rooftop diagonal to him. Raising his face in that direction, "So bright.... I can't see too well."As the sun falling in the west entered his vision, Flat reflexively held up his hand and muttered as if nothing had happened, "Sorry, Jack.... My bad..."He could feel Jack screaming. He could feel Jack shapeshift into something incredible to try and change the direction of the next bullet. But, Flat knew he probably wasn't going to make it. Because with his reinforced sight, he could see snipers on buildings in every direction. "...Sorry, Professor." Then, with a lonely laugh, he said his last words, "Everyone... sorry-" The spatter was 1 meter above the previous one. That is, the boy named Flat's head. "Hi...ya..." This was not the first time someone died in front of her. However, it was the first time someone who had been speaking to her with a smiling face just a few seconds ago had their head blown off. AYAKA SAJYOU's scream resounds as Flat Escardos' body tumbles into the sea of red spouting from its neck.
    Am I losing my mind in all the references or isn't this literally Ryuunosuke's death.
    Last edited by Bobin; January 13th, 2020 at 06:33 PM.
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    it's like kerry shooting ryuunosuke except he fucks up worse than usual while at it

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    It's........literally how Ryuunosuke went. Here's hoping everything works out for Flat though. Pretty positive things will.


    Oh my god..

    he was mid sentence
    i can't
    he'll be okay, somehow. i'm sure. i'm sure. (please help comfort me)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    Now I wonder if Sigma's gonna
    Spoiler:
    shoot down Watcher with the crossbow as a reenacment of the crossbow legend
    Maybe as a final trail to become True Lancer, truly he has the best NP for that class LOL
    Spoiler:
    The crossbow is probably gonna be a one-and-done thing. I figure once he kills Watcher with it (assuming that is indeed the direction this is going), she's gonna drop the giant spear she's carrying in her mouth, and that's gonna become Sigma's NP.


    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Spoiler:
    AYAKA thinks about the illusory scene she saw.
    As the three kings drank together, they each king shared their own perspective.
    The golden Hero King said, "The path of a king is based on the rules he himself sets up."
    The red haired Conqueror King said, "The starting point of kingship is one's own body. Conquer and overrun all the wealth and knowledge from far and wide.
    And the azure and argent Knight King said, "For a king to save their country, they should sacrifice themselves on the road of righteous ideals."
    The Knight King also proclaimed the wish she entrusted the Holy Grail.
    "I want to return to the time when I drew the sword of selection. If there is someone who would be a more appropriate king, I shall hand it over to this person so they may redo Britian's history."
    She had heard about King Arthur's choice to take up the sword of selection from Richard's mother, telling him bedtime stories.
    It seemed the Knight King thought if there was better person than she, who ended up destroying her country, they they ought to carry the burden of kingship.
    However, upon hearing the Knight Kings words the Conqueror King smoldered in anger, golden king laughed.
    Full of anger, the Conqueror King refuted her by saying she had "responded her nations prayers of forgivness," and "a selfless king cannot lead a nation. Citizens do not yearn for a slave to righteousness."
    -"Sacrificing everything about yourself for what is correct. There's no person who can live like that."
    -"Conqueror King, are you saying the rule of one who stops being human is inferior to that of a human?"
    -"Kuku. O'Knight King, then you would be forcing your way beyond what is human, to the realm of the gods."
    -"Why are you laughing Hero King. If that was possible with a human body, why hesitate?"
    -"Really? I know a goddess, who's unreasonable incarnations tried to rule a country according to what she believed was right."
    -"Hey, Knight King. I know I might have been called a descendant of Zeus, but"
    -"The path that follows the righteousness of a god, ends with you screening your own nation."
    The conversation continued for a little while. But before the Knight King could put in her last words, an assailant appeared and put an end to the dialogue.

    Camelot foreshadowing and some god stuff
    Oh, interesting. I guess that is a direction the Banquet of Kings probably would've gone in if it was written after Camelot. Thanks.

    Any info on what Hassan has been up to this volume?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holiday View Post
    Any info on what Hassan has been up to this volume?
    Doesn't appear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobin View Post
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    Wow, now they even have a rule against forbidden relationships.
    Spoiler:
    I think it's more that Jester wasn't consistent. Should have gone all in on love or all in on being a DA, but for some reason being half-assed is worthy of death.
    Van-Fem does says it's not uncommon for DAs to love fanatics etc
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Does Jester care about Van Fem? Does he actually speak or just mentioned? Why does Flat call Van Fem and did Hansa know him or was he just there when Flat was called him?

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    Honestly the Narita Banquet of Kings is something hilarious to me. It feels so hamfisted I can’t take it seriously but Richard’s reaction both feels legitimate and also fanfic tier at the same time.

    Basically saying Iskander was seething is pretty funny in a way that I’m a bit sad at myself for finding amusing.

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    Presence Erasure EX indeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHP View Post
    Does Jester care about Van Fem? Does he actually speak or just mentioned? Why does Flat call Van Fem and did Hansa know him or was he just there when Flat was called him?
    Spoiler:
    Van Fem has a few lines.
    Flat's reasoning is that if Jester is a bigshot in the DA world maybe this DA that he knows, Van Fem, might know him.
    Hansa has heard of Van Fem of course, but doesn't know him. Most of the Van Fem conversation POV narration is through Hansa.
    Van Fem is the one who teaches Flat about Jester's revolver heart and spiritual cores he uses which allows Flat to attack Jester's main body at the Kuroka house while being in the Crystal Hill.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    I definitely prefer the Zero banquet. More emotional weight IMO on Iskandar's side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    Those that got to read the novel, do you guys have any theory on
    Spoiler:
    Who's the person summoned by QSH's crossbow?
    I've seen in the chinese discussions, the most prominent theory seems to be it was Xu Fu or archer QSH
    And they keep mentioning the story of how, on Zhifu island, QSH took a crossbow and shot down a sea monster/god that Xu Fu told him was blocking his way to Mt. Penglai

    I wanted to ask what you guys think about it or if you have any theory yourselfs?
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    in ancient times. He was then punished by removing his divinity and he became an hero in the human world


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