The Type-Moon Miscellaneous Thoughts Thread

[You]

Inb4 its a paradise and thats what exactly makes it a pruned line

paradise lost

[aldeayeah]

Gil’s strength comes only from one place, himself. Gilgamesh at his true strength isn’t him borrowing the power of any god, it’s him using his abilities to the fullest he can be.

In this moment, I am naked. Not because of any phony god's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my own power.

[castor212]

hot

[warellis]

That OST deserves a better anime...

Looking back on it, despite the weird attempts to shoehorn in bits of UBW & HF, was DEEN/Stay Night that bad of an adaptation versus say the Tsukihime anime?

I just honestly wonder.

[Strange_One]

To my knowledge Fate/Deen did not spawn a meme that attempted to deny it's very existence.

[fire_mountain_30]

so, does the existence of the concept of lostbelts as well as of quantum time locks, by which events can be different yet are still legit as long as the end result is the same, mean that everything in the nasuverse, including manga and anime adaptations, are now all canon?

[Arashi_Leonhart]

You don't understand what QTL and Lostbelts are.

[Mcjon01]

Apocrypha is not canon

[Toa of Gallifrey]

Looking back on it, despite the weird attempts to shoehorn in bits of UBW & HF, was DEEN/Stay Night that bad of an adaptation versus say the Tsukihime anime?

I just honestly wonder.

Nothing is as bad as the Tsukihime anime. DEEN/stay night at its worst isn't close to Shingetsutan Tsukihime at its best.

[hayate]

I think I now know why Kirei appeared in the Grand Order story proper and we get a rerun of the Zero Order...

This is the Kirei that we let live in the Zero Order singularity.

Caster Gil's deduction on singularities is that everyone who died stays dead, only history changes the cause of death, and that anyone who's alive in the singularity stays alive.

So we just let him live, singularity collapses, but since Kirei is left alive in the singularity, history corrects itself so that Kirei can stay alive.

We just let a bad guy live. Welp.

[RoydGolden]

I think I now know why Kirei appeared in the Grand Order story proper and we get a rerun of the Zero Order...

This is the Kirei that we let live in the Zero Order singularity.

Caster Gil's deduction on singularities is that everyone who died stays dead, only history changes the cause of death, and that anyone who's alive in the singularity stays alive.

So we just let him live, singularity collapses, but since Kirei is left alive in the singularity, history corrects itself so that Kirei can stay alive.

We just let a bad guy live. Welp.

But Kotomine didn't die during the fourth War in the main timeline either.

I don't see how surviving something he would've survived originally anyway equals to surviving an entirely different thing that would've killed him several years in the future. Though that reminds me of something else incongruous. Wasn't it stated somewhere that the Grail War Marisbury participated in was the only one that ever took place in GO's timeline? How could the events of Fate/Zero have occurred at all then?

[hayate]

But Kiritsugu didn't die during the fourth War in the main timeline either.

I don't see how surviving something he would've survived originally anyway equals to surviving an entirely different thing that would've killed him several years in the future. Though that reminds me of something else incongruous. Wasn't it stated somewhere that the Grail War Marisbury participated in was the only one that ever took place in GO's timeline? How could the events of Fate/Zero have occurred at all then?

Wow, that's the one thing I have forgotten.

Unless someone had something to do with first person's perspective narration being a lie again, 4 or 5 attempts at the ritual took place in Fuyuki, and Angra is still there at the cup before Marisbilly's war happened.

All because of that one old man summoning Israel's 2nd king of the united kingdom, participating in a war, and both of them getting their wish. Welp.

Grand Order is a Lostbelt in and of itself and we just helped them make it.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Fate/Zero's story happens in a parallel-but-close-to-GO's-worldline and this is stated right up front in Zero's event. GO only had one war in Fuyuki with no Angra impregnation insofar as we know.

[Reign]

Isn't it also the case that Kirei dying in 2004 is a fixed point and no worlds exist where that isn't the case? Unless I'm misinformed, which I could be since I don't remember where I read that.

[Raylen Cypher]

Apocrypha is not canon

define-tly and

person-ally

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Isn't it also the case that Kirei dying in 2004 is a fixed point and no worlds exist where that isn't the case? Unless I'm misinformed, which I could be since I don't remember where I read that.

Part of what makes a Lostbelt a Lostbelt is that what can't or shouldn't happen did

[You]

Isn't it also the case that Kirei dying in 2004 is a fixed point and no worlds exist where that isn't the case? Unless I'm misinformed, which I could be since I don't remember where I read that.

Its in HA
I'm p sure that doesn't apply to stuff like apo

[Rafflesiac]

Its in HA
I'm p sure that doesn't apply to stuff like apo

how do you know kirei didn't die unsatisfied during a mission at the end of his unsatisfying life hmm

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

how do you know kirei didn't die unsatisfied during a mission at the end of his unsatisfying life hmm

Apo mats.

[Rafflesiac]

even now

tch