Create-a-Servant

[Counterguardian]

Try to separate the different classes of canon from each other.

Although it seems legit, Apocrypha is ultimately as canon in the "primary" Nasuverse as Prisma Illya, Fate/EXTRA or other spin-off works.

[Apple]

Yeah, but the thing is that it was a class that Nasu designed. Surely it deserves more credibility than the spin-off that Prisma Ilya is. Also, I don't see anything wrong with putting it there if someone's done it without any opposition already.

[I3uster]

Yes, you can use it. It's function is non-combat though.
It's Kotomines job, done by a Servant. I don't think they even have a Master, and I speculate that the job can only be done by CGs (Joan is a CG afair).

[nununu]

More like she used to be. I think.

[I3uster]

You can't stop being a CG.

[Optimus]

You stop being a CG if you become famous enough and become an Heroic Spirit instead.

[nununu]

Huh? I thought you could get promoted to true HS if your legend propagates. Joan made a deal with the World in life to accomplish her goals and became, and served as, a CG after her death. When her exploits were propagated(by the Church), she got promoted to true HS and no longer need to do CG duties.

[Hyarion]

I mean, Jeanne led the French army in various military campaigns, and she's also a Ruler. She didn't seem very much like a neutral observer to me.

The 'neutral observer' bit actually doesn't have anything to do with her life. In the Apocrypha Grail War, the Grail itself summoned a Masterless Servant, Ruler, to referee the thing. Basically what Kotomine's job was in HF5.

So no, it's really not a standard class. It seems to have its own class container and all, but it's better to think of it as a title.

[I3uster]

I think you should think of it as a class. There is no reason why she should occupy another class slot.

[Hyarion]

Maybe I should put it this way.

The prereq to Ruler isn't necessarily that they were neutral observers in life, it's that they could act as one to a Grail War.

[I3uster]

Sounds good.

Do you think that Church affilation may be a requirement though?

[Five_X]

Probably not, the Church hasn't been around for that long. Would you really destroy the opportunity to have Diogenes of Sinope as a Ruler? Of all people, he was the ORIGINAL guy who didn't give a fuck.

[Apple]

^ Does that mean that Gilgamesh has him in his vault?

Well, then Marker 3A would fit. It wouldn't be partial to any of the participants in the war, it would probably be too busy trying to drive everyone mad in a bid to attain Convergence.

[Sherrinford]

Probably not, the Church hasn't been around for that long. Would you really destroy the opportunity to have Diogenes of Sinope as a Ruler? Of all people, he was the ORIGINAL guy who didn't give a fuck.

Actually, the HGW isn't that ancient... 200 years at best, IIRC. So yes, the Church was there from the beginning.

PS: Diogenes as a servant? Ruler class?... you're a genius.

^ Does that mean that Gilgamesh has him in his vault?

Yes (lol). And this pisses the hell out of Gil... I mean, look at how Diogenes treated Alexander (*giggles*)

[Apple]

Also, Gil would probably be pissed at competition with what he does best.

[Mellon]

Actually, the HGW isn't that ancient... 200 years at best, IIRC. So yes, the Church was there from the beginning.

PS: Diogenes as a servant? Ruler class?... you're a genius.

I doubt any "mediator" class would be bound to the Church.

The Church mediation came from the Fourth GW and upwards. Before that, the Church had nothing to do with the First, Second and Third Heavens Feel.

[Milbunk]

I also made this to go along with my snippet let me know what you think:

Fabro Rowan aka Nrvnqsr Chaos
Class: Caster
Alignment: True Neutral

Strength: B
Endurance: A+
Agility: C
Prana: C
Luck: D
Noble Phantasm: EX

Class Skills:

Territory Creation (E): Fabro has no need for a territory therefore he chooses not to have this skill.

Item Creation (D): While it is true he was once an alchemist he did not specialize in items and therefore has a very low rank of this skill. He is able to produce simple prana potions and other unique magical items of a low rank.

Other Abilities:

Battle Continuation (A): Due to the way his reality marble works Fabro is able to stay alive until either every single one of his beasts are killed or he runs out of prana and since there are 666 beasts in total killing him a great feat indeed.

Self Modification (A): Due to the nature of his chaos Fabro is able to absorb and use the powers of anything he eats.

Noble Phantasm:

“The Soil of Genesis” – Pure Chaos (EX): Fabro’s reality marble that effects only his insides instead of the world around him. A gift from Roa it is always active and give him the abilities of Battle Continuation and Self Modification. He can also use this Reality Marble to summon any of the beasts he has absorbed and use them as long range familiars also capable of bringing him prana. When he combines the power of all 666 beasts he becomes the 999^th beast a beast that when used increases Strength, Endurance, and Agility by one rank.

[Apple]

Now, have a Dragon Age 2 servant.

Archer

True Name: Varric Tethras

Strength: C
Agility: D
Mana: D+
Luck: A+
Endurance: D+

Noble Phantasms:

Embellishments- Liberties of the Storyteller

Rank: A+

A Noble Phantasm that is the confluence of Varric's peerless storytelling abilities. The tales seem so real that listeners actually feel as though they experience the events themselves. In life, they were nothing but tales, shared by a kindly bard, but as a servant, these stories possess the ability to manifest within reality. There are conditions that must be fulfilled; firstly, the 'story' cannot be so far removed from reality that it becomes logically invalid (i.e. the world of ancient Babylon was made out of cream cheese and filled with candied ponies). Secondly, there must be at least one 'listener' to the 'story'. The 'listener' can be any entity, so long as it hears and understands Varric's words, and is not Varric. Stories which do not satisfy these criteria will fail to work altogether.

In essence, this is a Noble Phantasm that reverses reality by changing destiny itself. It does not work on normal humans, because their existence is rooted to reality and therefore cannot be influenced by embellishments. The true capacity of this Noble Phantasm lies in attacking the myths of other servants, since they obey the rule 'all myths are true'. Varric's excellent ability to convince his listeners that his stories are the actual versions of things allows him to rewrite entire chunks of myth, severely weakening opponents or strengthening himself for the duration of a 'story'. So long as Varric keeps listeners captivated, it possible that all disbelief is suspended within the duration of the 'story'. The effects of this rewriting on an opponent servant will persist into reality after the 'story' ends if he is able to convince the opponent that his version was more reliable than their version of things. If not, and they reject the story following its conclusion, then the effects of this NP will only remain contained within the length of the 'story'. Any bonuses to Varric himself within the context of the 'story' will always be lost upon the 'story's' ending, because he knows and remembers his own capabilities.

'Stories' that bridge the realms of reality and fantastical exaggeration (such as Varric exaggerating his own personal feats, stating that he took down an entire hired army) may also be cut short if listeners realize that the tale is too unbelievable. Means of getting around this limitation of doubt include telling a story to someone who is not the hero (of whose tale is being altered, and who will therefore not refute the unlikelihood of such a 'story')- or telling a Berserker-class servant's story in front of it, since it has no mental capacity with which to doubt or refute anything in general. Alternatively, Varric may simply employ such literary skill that he becomes too convincing for the listening servants not to believe him.

This Noble Phantasm has a variable overall prana cost that relies on how flamboyant, pemanent and extensive the alterations to reality are. Mere activation costs nearly nothing.

Bianca- Companion of the Bard

Rank: B

Varric's most trustworthy crossbow. He carries it everywhere it goes. It is a unique four-limbed repeating crossbow with an infinite 'ammo' stock. Because of Varric's familiarity and expertise with the weapon, his strength, agility and endurance stats are boosted by one rank when Bianca is equipped. Bianca also receives a rank boost (to B+) when wielded by Varric. Aside from that, Varric also becomes capable of superhuman feats such as shooting up to five arrows in nearly the same instant, and firing arrows capable of piercing through multiple foes.

Abilities:

Independent Action

Rank: EX

The ability to remain independent even when rejecting the prana supply from the Master. At the higher ranks it is also possible to remain for extended periods of time in this world without a established contract. Varric continually renews his servant existence by rewriting his own myth. It is possible to exist indefinitely, since he does not know how much independent action he really should have, and therefore overrides it with Embellishments.

Charisma

Rank: C+

Natural talent to command an army. Increases the ability of allies during group battles. A rare talent. Slightly below the level suitable for a king of a country.

Divinity

Rank: D

Measures whatever Divine Spirit aptitude one has. At high levels one is treated as a mixed race of a materialized Divine Spirit, and the level declines when the Heroic Spirit's own rank as a Monster, Demonic Beast raises. It can also decrease due one's dislike for the gods. It also has an effect which reduces special defensive values called "purge defense" in proportion to the Divinity's Rank. It can break through Skills such as Protection of the Faith. Varric is indirectly related to an ancestral Tethras who became a dwarven paragon, the dwarvish equivalents of Gods.

[Aladar]

You forgot to add 'Scarface Impersonation'- Rank A to Varric's NPs. xD

[Apple]

SAY HELLO TO MAH LEETLE FRIEND BIANCA

Actually, that would fall under Embellishments.