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    Is there any in-universe explanation for why most Lancers have bad luck stats? I mean, meeting a tragic ending in your legend isn't exactly limited to spearmen, just ask EMIYA. I'm just wondering if there's any explanation for why Lancers are cursed with low luck stats. And please don't answer with something like "Because being a Lancer is suffering".

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    well you see, being lancer is--
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    I honestly don't think theres a straight answer. The most likely is that its a joke TM plays with.

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    real talk tho

    thats just a meme

    those in possession of E-rank luck among lancers are only about a sixth of current known lancer

    even if youre being generous and still counts D-rank luck as bad luck, combined with E-rankers that's about a third of current known Lancers

    its not exactly "most" Lancers
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    real talk tho

    thats just a meme

    those in possession of E-rank luck among lancers are only about a sixth of current known lancer

    even if youre being generous and still counts D-rank luck as bad luck, combined with E-rankers that's about a third of current known Lancers

    its not exactly "most" Lancers
    Okay, my error then. I was unaware that most Lancers known nowadays do not have low luck stats.

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    Details on what castor said:

    Lancers with A++ rank Luck: JDASL
    Lancers with A+ rank Luck: Kiyohime, Karna (self-reported)
    Lancers with A rank Luck: Tamamo, Nezha
    Lancers with B rank Luck: Ereshkigal, Ibaraki, Inshun, Parvati, Jaguarman, Hector, Romulus, Liz
    Lancers with C rank Luck: Raikou, Medusa Lily, Artoria, Fionn, Leonidas, Benkei
    Lancers with D rank Luck: Vlad Apo, Vlad EXTRA, Karna, Artoria Alter, Scathach, Proto Cu
    Lancers with E rank Luck: Valkyrie, Li Shuwen, Bryn, Diarmuid, Cu
    Lancers that can change Luck stat as will: Enkidu

    If you take C rank as average rank, you only have 5 Lancers (7 if you count Valkyrie as 3) with E rank Luck and 6 with D rank Luck so 11-13.
    Meanwhile there are 8 with B rank Luck, 6 with average Luck, 2 with A rank Luck, 1 (or 2 if you count Karna) with high Luck and 1 with very high Luck.

    So less than half of Lancers have bad luck if you count D-rank as bad, and if you only count E rank it's like 1/6-1/4 of the cast.
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    Karna would not lie to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Karna would not lie to me
    how about when he doesn't think its a lie, but the universe says otherwise
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    It's funny tho that other than Li, all of the other E-rank Luck Lancers are from Northern Europe region.

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    And I still want to know Apo Vlad's Luck cuz I forgot. But if he has the exact same rank as his FGO Berserker form, I guess you can also count him.

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    NVM he has D rank.

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    Apo Vlads stats is Str B, End B, Agi A, Mana A, Luck D, and NP A. With the domain buff all of these go up one Rank

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    In the F/Z translation, where did the 1200 bullets/second comment come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fate/Zero vol. 3
    Simple ammunition is no threat to Servants, no matter how big its caliber is. This is especially so with Saber, whose physical abilities were so supreme. Not only can she easily dodge them, but she can even deflect the rocket back with her sword if she wanted to. However – no matter how extraordinary the Heroic Spirit’s abilities maybe, she is still helpless in front of the firing speed of 1200 rounds per second of the M61 automatic rifle that the General Electric company took pride in. Moreover, this weapon has been attached with the properties of a Noble Phantasm by Berserker’s hand. Getting hit by one round is enough to kill.
    Looking at a wikipedia entry for the M61, it should only have a firing rate of 6000 bullets/minute, or 100 bullets/second.

    Could have sworn that this was mentioned somewhere as reflecting Lancelot's Knight of Owner enhancing the temporary NP beyond its normal capabilities, but is it just a goof up on Urobutchi's/translation's part?
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    So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
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    Like all number/unit mistakes it's from the telephone game translation, and the original text says 12,000 rounds per minute
    Which according to the Japanese Internet is a record set when they were stress testing it and not realistic under normal conditions, but I can't find any English sources

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    Thanks Mcjon
    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    Then I will ask that you pay closer attention
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
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    It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

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    Do any official Type-Moon materials refer to the Tohsakas or Matous by a word that would better be translated as "clan" rather than "family"? Or is referring to them as "clans" just a fandom tendency?
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    Is there any form of Magecraft that closely resembles FMA alchemy in terms of mechanics and principles?

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    Is Kerry's Origin a "single concept" despite being two words, or is it like Rin/Heine/anyone else who's born with multiple Elemental affinities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugs View Post
    Is Kerry's Origin a "single concept" despite being two words, or is it like Rin/Heine/anyone else who's born with multiple Elemental affinities?
    His Origin is two concepts, that interact and mix with each other. They aren't his elements. Im pretty sure his elements was something like Fire & Wind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    His Origin is two concepts, that interact and mix with each other. They aren't his elements. Im pretty sure his elements was something like Fire & Wind?
    Right, I guess I didn't phrase that well. I meant was it more like (severing and binding) or (severing) and (binding).
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    His Origin is two concepts, that interact and mix with each other. They aren't his elements. Im pretty sure his elements was something like Fire & Wind?
    His elements are Fire and Earth, the opposite of Kayneth's Water and Wind.

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