He's like a vastly worse Archer as far as Shirou's character / ideals development goes. Except that he traumatizes everybody else as well.Originally Posted by Raven2785
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And this fic proposal just keeps getting better.
If you want to go full disillusionment, you could even go so far as to have Kerry shoot and 'kill' Shirou near the end if he doesn't realise he has Avalon in him (or maybe just doesn't know the extent of its healing ability). So SHirou has to deal with the fact his father figure and idol just tried to kill him, without Kerry realising he's still a factor.
Last edited by meevanhelot; July 15th, 2013 at 12:40 AM.
Would be great if this is not even near the end. Cause then you could have Archer see it happen and snap, I mean his father just tried to kill him (technically).
He might be just a tad upset with that, just a tad.
As a final twist or possibly beginning goal we could have Kiritsugu discover that there might be a third option with the Grail with Sakura, but not if Kariya has anything to say about it.
...And now the mother-daughter interactions get poisoned as well.
Well, that and Iri is probably the last person who could deal with her daughter's issues. She's a bouncy, happy-go-lucky woman who only lived a couple years. Ilya's older than she is, and Ilya's also tasted a lot more loss than Irisviel has. Iri won't know what to do with her daughter to begin with.
I think Ilya would fall apart even further when she starts seeing her mother's flighty side.
And then the "Who will Kiritsugu let live?" issue comes up. Ouch. This is going to be awful.
Well, the problem is the moment it happens any alliance no longer exists, so it could only be done once you no longer have any plans for that alliance plotwise.
She's only lived a couple of years when she had Illya, so she's 10 by the Fourth. Not that that really changes anything, but yeah.
Last edited by meevanhelot; July 15th, 2013 at 12:42 AM.
Archer realizes that he can paradox himself out of existence at the source: Kill the mentor.
I could see Archer, Kiritsugu, and Shirou all having a shouting match with each other about what is right.
He is now gunning for his father, and gets Young Kirei on board because Kiritsugu interests him. This overall goes against the Tohsaka plan who want to go after others first.
One argument and a rule breaker later Archer is now contracted to Kirei. Yes, Kirei.
Its all about reforming of alliances and shifting of objectives.
This fic can more or less be musical alliances in the grand scheme.
Last edited by Knick; July 15th, 2013 at 12:47 AM.
I actually wonder whether both Shirous find common cause with one another when they see just what kind of man screwed them up with his ideals.
By 5th War, isn't that too late? Shirou already inherited Kiritsugu's ideals, never mind that he's somehow here right now (yay Timey Wimey Ball).
Or going by similarly twisted logic, Archer became who he was today due to the Fuyuki Fire; destroy Irisviel, the 4th HGW Grail, and the Fire never happens and Shirou never gets distorted/saved/set down the path of being a Hero...
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Well Archer admits that his whole plan is more about just letting out his frustration on his past self (I think).
Now he just has a more interesting target.
Kirei kills his older self in a climactic battle, and realizes how good it felt to make the object of his self-loathing suffer.
He wishes to travel through other universes' Wars as an avatar of the Fuyuki Grail, killing the warped versions of himself who turned evil. Kirei finds true happiness along the way. The Vessel gets to kill people with a wish, nobody has to destroy the Fuyuki Grail, and Kirei saves the multiverse from himself.
Last edited by Zalgo Jenkins; July 15th, 2013 at 12:53 AM.
You do relies you just made Kirei into Madoka more or less... right?
I've never seen the series. Though I guess that would add a whole new level of irony, now that I think about it.
Irisviel would be able to handle Ilya because she already has experience handling Kiritsugu's tormented soul.
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
Good point, but I'm not so sure.
Iri helped Kiritsugu by validating his ideals and agreeing to die. Kerry also seemed to enjoy Iri's cute, bubbly, innocent demeanor. None of that will help with Ilya, who wants an actual family.
Kiritsugu will gather info on the "last" war, and thus he will find that while he won the war, there is a distinct lack of Utopia.
He will say "fuck it", kill seven Servants and then wish for everyone to be teleported to Avalon.
Good End?
>Kerry
>tormented soul
crawwwwwwling in my skiiiiiiiiiin
Grail decides the only way for "everyone" to be in Avalon is if there's nobody outside of Avalon. Covers the world in Grail mud.
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