D&D rules would say the RM user, but I know Nasu's broken that one before.
D&D rules would say the RM user, but I know Nasu's broken that one before.
Thanks for the translation even though I haven't read it yet.
What is a shinmei supposed to be?Originally Posted by Mizukume
Spoiler:
True name
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
throws 20 to break out, throws 60 or higher to destroy the RM
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Ugh, why didn't he say that then? Making me think it was something special.
Spoiler:
it is something special
Localizationing stuff
tbh true name is a p bad translation because like it's not like Servants shout out fake names before they reveal a true name of a NP. They just say the name
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
The concept of true names comes from various myth and occult sources. It has nothing to do with "fake names".
No, it comes from shounen trope.
Look up true names. Do you see anything to do with Shonen? I'm sure the concept of names having power exists in Asian cultures too, but that's different from Shonen manga in particular.
Calling out the names of your attacks as you launch them is pure shounen, bro.
today I learned that kamehameha is an ancient occult ritual stemming from zoroastrian mythology
Well, yeah, the way it's used is Shonen, obviously. But the "true name" in itself is a concept from a lot of the mythologies Nasu draws from. It's not some random term that translators made up like You seemed to be implying.
The whole conceit of Fate is taking stuff from myths and legend and adapting them into the mold of anime/Shonen tropes, so this shouldn't be a hard concept to grasp.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_name
Literally the same thing I was saying, thanks for backing me up.
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So essentially it's like Zestiria's spirit charas and their mouthful true name.
Something
Did anyone read the Earthsea series?
First of all, you completely missed the joke, congrats.
Second, yes I knew the true name stuffs, however Servants can sometimes make shit up for their NP names. Biggest offenders include Gilgamesh, Tamamo and Kintoki. Heck some servants don't have to literally say the name (Tamamo), they just activate it. So it's more like a kind of magic word that reasonates the most with the Servant that they whenever the shout it they can bring out the most of it. And that particular part is shounen attack moves trope 101.
That honestly makes me curious where the shonen attack calling trope originated. Part of it is obviously the martial arts Kiai, but I wouldn't be surprised if the mythological concept of true names also played a role...
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