Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[eddyak]

Arjuna deserves more love, when DW?

when he's no longer a chuuni scrub

Seriously, I thought they'd have a far better character made for him.

[Rafflesiac]

Amakusa being that high still feels like a fantasy

The Amakusa Boom is Happening

[eddyak]

The Amakusa Boom is Happening

It's just because of all those events with the ridiculous on-death buffs. People are just starting to realise buff removal is a thing for challenge quests.

[Magikewl]

he got np upgrade and skill upgrade and he already was archer version of drake. unlike gil he also covers normal mobs with his NP so he also got some separate role in comparision with other 2 so i would say he's pretty good.

Tesla's NP is only super effective against earth/sky servants but yeah he's still p stronk

[Aozaki-desu]

wait it is? shame on me.

[Nobody]

She's not offensively bad, her problem is that there is always someone better

I cant defend this, he has debuff immunity and heal+stars and one-turn buff for pashupata. he cant farm and he cant kill shit when it counts. i might put him in C after some consideration but idk honestly.


he got np upgrade and skill upgrade and he already was archer version of drake. unlike gil he also covers normal mobs with his NP so he also got some separate role in comparision with other 2 so i would say he's pretty good.


i like medb a lot
she lacks a punch compared to her rider buddies but she's rider with fast super-effective np and her debuff immunity, unlike arjuna, is actually useful.
her charisma is usually 40% on waver/merlin support or whichever male you decide to run her with its actually a lot even for weaksauce supports

I never used Tesla so this is all unknown to me. And I just realized that Archer Artoria is lower than Tesla, does it have to do with his NP spamming being better than hers?

[Zork Knight]

I cant defend this, he has debuff immunity and heal+stars and one-turn buff for pashupata. he cant farm and he cant kill shit when it counts. i might put him in C after some consideration but idk honestly.

Am I using some other unit named Arjuna? He clears both hands and doors for me.

[Mcjon01]

Gil's NP hits slighter harder than Ishtar's even without the SE modifier. NP gen for both is about the same. Ishtar has stronger normal attacks and crits.

I'd say Ishtar is generally better.

Just be lucky like me and get six stacks of crit up from the bond CE and tell me who has better crits then
Also Ishtar gets dropped a rank because delayed boosts are annoying and another rank because I don’t have her and ANOTHER rank because thinking about how I don’t have her makes me think about how I don’t have Rider Ishtar either
So you can see she’s pretty bad

[Rafflesiac]

RIP MHXA, she's cool, she should be better ;_;

And double RIP Enkidu, the Champion of Shimosa ;_;

He dunks people with his NP plus a solid chance of a boosted Brave for rapid NP charge, makes a bunch of stars to bolster his solid NP gain and can perfect dodge 5-gauge NPs, why the lack of love?

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I never used Tesla so this is all unknown to me. And I just realized that Archer Artoria is lower than Tesla, does it have to do with his NP spamming being better than hers?

He gets going faster than she does and I believe has stronger buffs when they all trigger.

Also she dies to an NP and he lives.

[Aozaki-desu]

I never used Tesla so this is all unknown to me. And I just realized that Archer Artoria is lower than Tesla, does it have to do with his NP spamming being better than hers?

no, actually Archer Artoria gets rank down because all 3 A-rank archers can do both AOE clear and boss-killing with excellent results.

Archer Artoria is a lot of setup for a decent gain but honestly whenever i used her i felt she was lackluster somewhat with exception of NP5 Swift artoria who is not a benchmark for this by any means.

[Rafflesiac]

Frankly Tesla's stronger than Ishtar for general use and NP spam, which is difficult to admit because boy I love her and her crits to pieces

[Aozaki-desu]

Am I using some other unit named Arjuna? He clears both hands and doors for me.

i actually didnt doublecheck his skills and forgot to confirm his np charge
i'll bump him for farming value to C but he is still eh

[Magikewl]

All the archer artorias in my fl have her on the ugliest ascension possible so she's automatic F rank for me

[Rafflesiac]

2nd Ascension or bust

[Aozaki-desu]

Frankly Tesla's stronger than Ishtar for general use and NP spam, which is difficult to admit because boy I love her and her crits to pieces

its Ishtar > Gil > Tesla for boss-killing and Tesla > Gil > Ishtar for NP spam. They are interchangable depending on what you want but can also replace each other so i think all 3 are pretty close and you can go for whoever you want most.

[Spartacus]

no, actually Archer Artoria gets rank down because all 3 A-rank archers can do both AOE clear and boss-killing with excellent results.

Archer Artoria is a lot of setup for a decent gain but honestly whenever i used her i felt she was lackluster somewhat with exception of NP5 Swift artoria who is not a benchmark for this by any means.

I agree, Archer Artoria need both Tamamo and Waver/Merlin/Holmes to properly drain spam. That's like 2 EX SSR.

[Nobody]

no, actually Archer Artoria gets rank down because all 3 A-rank archers can do both AOE clear and boss-killing with excellent results.

Archer Artoria is a lot of setup for a decent gain but honestly whenever i used her i felt she was lackluster somewhat with exception of NP5 Swift artoria who is not a benchmark for this by any means.

Interesting. Guess I'll start picking Tesla over Artoria now for Saber bosses.

[Rafflesiac]

Just be lucky like me and get six stacks of crit up from the bond CE and tell me who has better crits then
Also Ishtar gets dropped a rank because delayed boosts are annoying and another rank because I don’t have her and ANOTHER rank because thinking about how I don’t have her makes me think about how I don’t have Rider Ishtar either
So you can see she’s pretty bad

doesnt seem that hard to me, just roll them??

[Magikewl]

Ishtar deserves rank down for being damegami imo

[Nobody]

I agree, Archer Artoria need both Tamamo and Waver/Merlin/Holmes to properly drain spam. That's like 2 EX SSR.

No way. I just stacked Arts buffs on her with just Tamamo (and I think the CCC Mystic Code), and she had a full NP bar right after using her NP plus and arts card right after.