Type-Moon Fanfic Idea Thread

[legoguydude]

Vampire Rin is better at gem creation because she inherently sparkles, amirite?

And has more blood to charge them. Not all hers, of course.

[qsurf]

Vampire Rin is better at gem creation because she inherently sparkles, amirite?

Get out.

-.-

[YeOfLittleFaith]

During middle school, Shirou suffers from chuunibyou syndrome, and goes around trying to help people and beat bad guys while pretending to be an actual superhero.

Wacky hijinks and bro!Shinji ensue.

[qsurf]

Sorry, saw this, couldn't get it out of my head, and now I need help with how to make it work...

Fourth Holy Grail War, Kotomine Kirei summons Servant Assassin, aka Tohsaka Rin.

What would make her follow the path of the Assassin in the first place? Travelling with Shirou? Becoming an Enforcer then offering herself to Alaya?

[Mike1984]

Trying to find a way to kill Zouken without harming Sakura?

[mAc Chaos]

It looks like her 4th War self rather than an older Servant Rin.

[qsurf]

Trying to find a way to kill Zouken without harming Sakura?

I have no idea how that would even start to work, especially when Rin heads to London without knowing what's really going on two routes out of three. Furthermore, that would be a Caster Path not an Assassin's.

...scratch that, I have some ideas, but they end badly...very badly.

It looks like her 4th War self rather than an older Servant Rin.

Accident with the Kaleidoscope as she was learning it warped her soul badly and had it simultaneously drawing on the power of a Vampiric Alternate Rin. This Rin however, was an eternal child. The accident left not vampiric Rin unable to use the Kaleidoscope, but gave her the power of loli vamp, however, the more of that power she used, the younger she would get, and the longer it took for her body to revert to her original age.

[Mike1984]

I have no idea how that would even start to work, especially when Rin heads to London without knowing what's really going on two routes out of three.

That doesn't mean she can't find out later.

Furthermore, that would be a Caster Path not an Assassin's.

Why? Assassins kill people, Zouken needs to be killed....

...scratch that, I have some ideas, but they end badly...very badly.

I see....

[qsurf]

That doesn't mean she can't find out later.

True...but how would she find out? If I remember correctly, only two people know how the Matou Magecraft works, one is Sakura, the other Zouken.

Why? Assassins kill people, Zouken needs to be killed....

Again, true, but your condition:

Trying to find a way to kill Zouken without harming Sakura?

Means that she'll need to counter the worms...magecraft times, meaning Caster path.

I see....

*shrugs*

Sorry, but it just may be that if I figure a solid reason for Rin to find out and work out how she'll get involved, then that means she will fuck it up. Not enough experience, not enough power, no Servant / Servant suited to what needs to be done. Nothing I can think of will lead to a happy ending.

However, this would probably have Tohsaka BSOD'ing over her failure before she decides to work on her mysteries so that it something like that would never happen again. At some point, this might get her noticed by Enforcers...or they needed someone who knew their next target...scratch this sentence, way too many assumptions and stretching. =/

But basically, yeah, doesn't end well. Sakura's death is prolly the best ending of them all.

[Mike1984]

True...but how would she find out? If I remember correctly, only two people know how the Matou Magecraft works, one is Sakura, the other Zouken.

Well, I think Shinji does, actually, at least to some extent.

Also, she can still discover Sakura's situation, and I would imagine she would do her research before any rescue attempt.

Means that she'll need to counter the worms...magecraft times, meaning Caster path.

I'm pretty sure that any implementation of Assassin Rin is going to use magecraft, because that's what she's good at.

*shrugs*

Sorry, but it just may be that if I figure a solid reason for Rin to find out and work out how she'll get involved, then that means she will fuck it up. Not enough experience, not enough power, no Servant / Servant suited to what needs to be done. Nothing I can think of will lead to a happy ending.

However, this would probably have Tohsaka BSOD'ing over her failure before she decides to work on her mysteries so that it something like that would never happen again. At some point, this might get her noticed by Enforcers...or they needed someone who knew their next target...scratch this sentence, way too many assumptions and stretching. =/

But basically, yeah, doesn't end well. Sakura's death is prolly the best ending of them all.

I see....

Yeah, that sucks, really. At least she'd be trying to save her sister in the fourth war, though....

[Kelnish]

Well, I think Shinji does, actually, at least to some extent.

Also, she can still discover Sakura's situation, and I would imagine she would do her research before any rescue attempt.

Actually there is one other person who probably had a very good idea about what's happening to Sakura, one who happens to have a strong connection to Rin. Kotomine Kirei. From his interactions with Zouken and Kariya in the fourth war, being present when Sakura was given to the Matou, and how quickly he figured out the root of Sakura's condition when the most likely culprit was the poison she was doused in during Heaven's Feel; it seems very likely that Kotomine knew full well what was happening to his old master's youngest daughter.

In a scenario where Kotomine survives the war, or Sakura takes an active role without Zouken going for operation dark grail, or something happens to spark Rin's curiosity about her estranged sister, I could see him dropping hints in order to craft a grand tragedy starring his favorite plaything.

[Comartemis]

Related to the above idea:

"Rin's Big Adventure" follows the anime ending rather than Urobuchi's "lol, nihilism wins everything forever" ending in the novels. Having had a taste of heroism and then following it up with the fallout of the 4th GW, Rin decides that being a magi isn't worth the suffering it causes and goes Path of the King on Fuyuki. Zelretch thinks this is hilarious and tosses Ruby her way and suddenly Fuyuki has its very own defender of love and justice.

[Mike1984]

Well, for a start she needs to get rid of Zouken and save her little sister....

[Comartemis]

Well, for a start she needs to get rid of Zouken and save her little sister....

You mean die horribly and/or mercy-kill her little sister because she has no way to fight Zouken or his ability to possess Sakura's heart worm at will. But we've been over this in other threads and you always refuse to listen, so I'm not going to argue the point. It's better drama anyways for Rin to not realize what's going on until the grail war is in full swing because then she has her pride as a hero massively kicked in the gut for not noticing what was going on with her own family.

[Mike1984]

You mean die horribly and/or mercy-kill her little sister because she has no way to fight Zouken or his ability to possess Sakura's heart worm at will. But we've been over this in other threads and you always refuse to listen, so I'm not going to argue the point. It's better drama anyways for Rin to not realize what's going on until the grail war is in full swing because then she has her pride as a hero massively kicked in the gut for not noticing what was going on with her own family.

Normally she doesn't (at that age, anyway), I'm not so sure that applies if she has Ruby, and she does have the potential to defeat Zouken, IMO, if she put enough preparation in (hell, we know she is capable of repairing hearts...). Whilst saving Sakura isn't easy, it's also not as difficult as you are making out.

[Kyte]

You mean die horribly and/or mercy-kill her little sister because she has no way to fight Zouken or his ability to possess Sakura's heart worm at will. But we've been over this in other threads and you always refuse to listen, so I'm not going to argue the point. It's better drama anyways for Rin to not realize what's going on until the grail war is in full swing because then she has her pride as a hero massively kicked in the gut for not noticing what was going on with her own family.

Pot. Kettle.

You're a funny boy.

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Normally she doesn't (at that age, anyway), I'm not so sure that applies if she has Ruby, and she does have the potential to defeat Zouken, IMO, if she put enough preparation in (hell, we know she is capable of repairing hearts...). Whilst saving Sakura isn't easy, it's also not as difficult as you are making out.

If I had to guess, Sakura falls outside the scope of his favored characters and as such couldn't give a shit about whether she lived or died. Everything can burn so long as his faves survive. :V

[Bittersweet]

Step 1: Remove Sakura's heart and worm forcefully.

Step 2: Cram Kaleido stick into hole, allow to fuse with body.

Step 3: SAKURA, ARCHANGEL OF JUSTICE IS BORN!

[Comartemis]

Normally she doesn't (at that age, anyway), I'm not so sure that applies if she has Ruby, and she does have the potential to defeat Zouken, IMO, if she put enough preparation in (hell, we know she is capable of repairing hearts...). Whilst saving Sakura isn't easy, it's also not as difficult as you are making out.

*HEADDESK*

I completely forgot about the Tohsaka Heirloom. Excuse me, I'm going to beat my head against a wall for a few minutes.

*EDIT*
Though on the subject of preparation, that strikes me as a way to really get Sakura killed; we all know how Rin's plans tend to turn out, don't we?

[qsurf]

Not to mention having something is very different from knowing how to really use it. Plus Mike, you are STILL forgetting that Rin has to find out about the worms somehow or Sakura's out, completely.

Give me one reasonable scenario, properly thought out, that she could find out about them. Just one.

[Alulim]

Step 1: Remove Sakura's heart and worm forcefully.

Step 2: Cram Kaleido stick into hole, allow to fuse with body.

Step 3: SAKURA, ARCHANGEL OF JUSTICE IS BORN!

I support this.