His shield might be able to block Gáe Bolg, though.
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Oh, wow, should have updated the thread before posting.
Anyway, I actually think Cú can take it, but I doubt it will be easy.
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His shield might be able to block Gáe Bolg, though.
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Oh, wow, should have updated the thread before posting.
Anyway, I actually think Cú can take it, but I doubt it will be easy.
Yeah, but when would he decide to pull it. The thrown has enough build up that I can see Achilles pulling it out when he sees it. But would he do the same with the thrust. He doesn't pull out his shield at every opportunity he can. Hell so far in the series he never has pulled it out. That's why I'm skeptical.
Edit: ah never mind
Even if it isn't instantaneous, it still reverses cause and effect, so wouldn't the spear have already pierced Achilles' heart once it activates? Or if his luck was high enough, could he find a way to mitigate the damage?
Cu has to first activate the NP. Gae Bolg gives off a distinct aura when he gets in position to use it. It's long enough for Rin and Archer to discern it's a fatal attack when Cu stances. In a fight against someone faster than him that also specializes in melee, there's no guarantee Cu'd even get the chance.
Thrust I'm not sure, but I'm leaning no.
Throw. Hell yeah. That's what Emiya did.
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Well I mean, both Saber and Emiya realized it was him using his NP, but neither really reacted to it. Like Emiya became wary but he didn't try to escape. He would have been pierced if Shirou didn't intervene. Of course it doesn't mean you can't do that, its probably just not obvious of its exact effects unless you see it first hand.
Mysterious Heroine X vs Bedivere
MHX.
Bedi would probably be out off by her looks
And Bedi is a Saber
FSN Artoria (all 3 routes) vs Karna
Yeah, I meant the thrust.
It's not just Luck. Saber needed a combination of Luck and Instinct to not immediately die.
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I can see Rin!Saber standing up well to Karna in a melee fight, and maybe a direct hit from a full-powered Excalibur release can kill him even with the armour on, but I'm not sure she could deal with Vasavi Shakti; would a full-power Excaliblast disperse enough of the explosion that she could still survive it?
Ironically enough, Shirou!Saber would probably stand a better chance if she has Avalon. She could escape Vasavi Shakti and take the now-unarmoured Karna out with an Excaliblast in a repeat of what she did against Gilgamesh in Fate.
I feel like Karna vs Artoria would have to end the same way Karna vs Sieg (+Astolfo) went in Apoc if Artoria had any hope of winning.
She is strong enough to push him to use the big guns, at which point she could conceivably blink out of existence to dodge it and nail him on the counterattack -- provided, of course, Shirou is the Astolfo in this situation and Avalon is Akhilleus Kosmos.
Sans scabbard, Karna takes it.
Without Avalon, Karna should take the majority. With Avalon, it's a toss-up.
Wouldn’t karna have some pretty poor affinity against saber with avalon? Like, terrible awful affinity now that I think about it and am typing this?
Unless saber can bait karna into disarmoring himself, absorbing the blast and then blasting him with EXA (sounds similar?) I'm not seeing how is she winning honestly.
Wouldn't Karna just body Shirou Saber in melee tho?
His nukes may be useless for offense, but I don't see Saber having any advantage over him otherwise. Karna can always pull Brahmastra Kundala against Excaliblast, and K&K should more than offset any advantage Saber may have through Instinct.
So basically, Saber's best chance is if she was a hypothetical Rin!Saber with Avalon?
Well, avalon essentially turns saber into wolverine, as in, wounds healing nigh instantaneously. Karna doesn’t have any conceptual ways around that so would have to 100 to 0 her HP in a single round. He has exactly one way to do that, which saber could also block. And his attempt to do so would cripple his defensive power.
So due to his lack of any way to off set or get around avalon and the worsening of the situation that would occur when he tried to beat such, his affinity in that match up is awful.
But would Saber have a good way to get through K and K? I mean, is Excalibur strong enough to do more than chip damage with K&K's 90% damage reduction?