Okay thinking about this for a bit longer makes it pretty easy to resolve. Roa/SHIKI is locked up for years but Arach completes the underground development on his behalf.
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Okay thinking about this for a bit longer makes it pretty easy to resolve. Roa/SHIKI is locked up for years but Arach completes the underground development on his behalf.
No you idiot it's not Fate it's Moon PrincessQuote:
Originally Posted by Reverse_side98
i can't believe arcueid is a tale of the bamboo cutter reference
Oh yeah so is the theory we’re going with that Arcueid will just have an entirely seperate route that’s completely new and not just a new ending?Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrikow
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Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if we go even further back, maybe he’s been workshopping this among a couple different incarnations. Although if that was the case I guess one might assume the Church or somebody catching on.Quote:
Originally Posted by UnlimitedBladeWorks
Fate/Moon PrincessQuote:
Originally Posted by Glazy
Fate/Moon Princess: Notes on the Boundary of Emptiness featuring DDDante
I thought it was just a one-off gag but Arcuied now has blatantly said she appears in mirrors fine and she also destroyed the cameras at the tohno mansion. If that was the case then what was up with the photoshoot in Arc route during the date?
I think it was because of her outfit but that myth is generally true for DA. Vlov is actually just clothes and no head on the security feed.
Pretty sure we saw Vlov just fine on camera tho on the hotelQuote:
Originally Posted by Nanaya
You tell me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverse_side98
Looking like the Barber took a little too much off the top
Huh now that ive taken a closer look. But if that was the case why did Arc said she appears in mirrors just fine and also destroyed the cameras if she doesnt appear in it?
True Ancestors built different?
Yea, I would assume it's just a difference between True Ancestors and Dead Apostles
So something about Tsuki RE that I've never been able to figure out. Why does Roa want Shiki to be his enemy, even as he's dying in Ciel's route it's his final regret. It seems utterly antithetical to both his goal and his true desire so what's going on there?
"My voyagr is not misguided. This I know"
Giving me shirou emiya vibes for some reason
Few questions until next week
1. Does IB use a different source to use? Ciel is differentiating the sources as wine and water.
2. Isnt the blade part of black keys detachable when throwing and technically grow back depending on the magical energy of the user so why does some executor throw even the hilt then pull another set of black keys?
Is Noel's spear an Ash Lock?
Questions until next week
1. Wasnt shiki's adoption supposed to be off-the-papers? Where did noel and ciel even find documents of an adoption?
2. Who did sachi saw that was similar to shiki?
3. The idea replica was said to overwrite the Principle of Dead Apostles, so normal DAs do actually have Principle of their own?
4. Who is Roa talking about here?
Now, i must begin the feast, just as I have promised him.
The Celestial Egg
The Proof of Eternity
5. What is the Pantheon? If its gonna be explained later, dont answer this
3. Yes. Noel uses both her own principle (the bells) and the one she got from the Idea Mosaic (the eyes) in battle.
5. "Later" is in a future game. Do you want an answer under these terms?
Fully waiting for this to be honest. There are so many wider questions that definitely need to be answeredQuote:
Originally Posted by Petrikow
5. Okay i'll biteQuote:
Originally Posted by Comun
I went looking for my Pantheon post to answer Reverse_side98 and found this Petrikow answer to Reverse_side98's "What is Pantheon?" question.
Lol, guess i forgot but thanks anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by Comun
I think that might be an old post from Petri before he had the chance to fully digest all the information. I'm not sure if his stance remains the same even now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Comun
The purpose of the ritual in France is stated to be the 'collapse' of something much greater than Ciel and Noel's home town. During the Noel version of the flashback on Day 13 it was mentioned some sort of evolution affecting the world was taking place, this was immediately before the ritual was stated to have failed and Roa is killed by Arc.
I think it's less so that Roa is trying to resurrect CM with his ritual and more like the end result of the ritual itself will achieve a similar outcome to what CM had in mind.
We're told a Principle needs to serve as the foundation of the planet, and the Celestial Egg works as a type of Principle which is also stated to be the the beginning and end of everything. That's the entire reason the DAA need Arc because she/her Principle is the very foundation of the Tsukihime World, so if they have her Principle/Celestial Egg then they can just alter the Order of the world and reality whichever way they want.
We know this is possible since it's already foreshadowed in Arc's route when Arc created a new Order on the spot, hence why Roa was so ecstatic.
Can't believe it's been almost 2 years since that post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dartz
Anyway, read the follow-up stuff and what you're talking about (and much more) about Pantheon is discussed as well.
So he's trying to steal Arc's admin access to rewrite the code
Oh, you can bet I have!. Especially those bits mentioning the Canopy. I wish there was more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrikow
I think so. Roa does mention his goal is to "unveil the Cosmos" in MBTL so his goal may be a bit different from the DAA and CM, but the premise of the ritual likely remains the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirishima
Something else I've never seen mentioned or discussed is the fact that in MBBAN manga one of Sialim's simulations showed the world from 1000 years in the future with the crimson moon in the sky; in this simulation Sacchin mentioned every human suddenly disappeared along with her bloodlust. It's just a small tease from Nasu but I think it directly points out to the DAA/CM's final goal.
I remember bringing that up a while ago when we were talking about potential world ends and the idea that time is on CM side despite all the enemies. Meaningful when you think about MB/Zepia's story.
Only time will tell if this stays true in the remake but in doujin Tsukihime it's very clearly meant to be SHIKI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverse_side98
https://youtu.be/qg28u0snk2w?t=702
Finished the Tsukihime Arcueid route. Arcueid said six ancestors were gone but still don't know whom the hunter is. Who killed six ancestors?
Read the next route. I feel like I'm being baited into saying the answer.
Yea, it's getting kinda hard not to just stay on the backfoot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanaya
The answers are in the Ciel route. They talk about it at several points.Quote:
Originally Posted by tuck
There's nothing to worry about. Actually I don't care about spoilers.
your motherQuote:
Originally Posted by tuck
It was me, Austin. And I'll do it againQuote:
Originally Posted by tuck
The writing rly was on the wall huh.
Huh? What happened?
Lines of death on that one were awfully thick and easy to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by TomPen94
Ban evasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnesFleetingGlory
Have some questions
1. Roa mentioned being nostalgic after returning to the tohno mention after 8 years at the end of day 11 when he briefly possesed tohno. Ignoring that it's probably shiki feeling that and getting mixed with his own, wasnt it supposed to be 7?
2. Did roa fear Akiha in the OG, cause he seems wary of her when he said he wants to kill women but doesnt want to do it on the mansion?
3. Is there some significance about shiki killing haru and toshi that it somehow resulted in kohaku waking him up in day 12?
1. Something happened 7 years ago. Was it the accident at the mansion? Or was it something else? When did Shiki awaken his eyes? Is Akiha telling the truth? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHQuote:
Originally Posted by Reverse_side98
2. New stuff.
3. Yes.
3. I assume i have to wait for red garden huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrikow
Well, the answer is as simple as reading the game. Shiki giving in to Noel's temptations causes his morality stat to go into the negative which leads to him losing his mind on the "off-days" of Ciel Route. Because of this, he kills Hisui. That's why Kohaku wakes him up.
He what now? Welp dug my own grave
Tho i have another question related to that but ill save it for another time
Do not tread lightly into the spoiler thread.
Shiki definitely awakened his eyes the second time he wakes up I think, he doesn't have them during the brief first wake up we see so I assume that for the entirety of the hospital incident he didn't have them.
No lines visible in the ghoul flashback either. Kino.
Good lord seeing shiki go fucking insane was so raw. I love the legit surprise i got when i found out that day 12 is actually day 14 on the flowchart.
Questions till next week
1. If kohaku woke shiki up in day 14 and hisui was supposed to be dead by then as Petrikow said then how did hisui still woke shiki up that afternoon?
2. Also unless shiki was tripping he said hisui and akiha were already dead for 2 days in day 15 which is tuesday so they've been dead since sunday?
3. I assume taking the injection from arach regardless of whether shiki killed haru and toshi would still result in a complete takeover by roa and bad end on day 12 friday(or was it 10, fuck now im confused)?
4. At what point is there divergence betwee. Ciel normal and true end?
1. :smugkohaku:
2. Yes
3. Causes Roa to take over early on Day 11(Well, it's midnight so...).
4. Day 16(Or I guess Day 17 since he wakes up at midnight). It's an enforced order though you might not be able to access it even after completing normal because prior choices matter.
I appreciate the little addition to the end of day 10 where they show Shiki out hunting on the dead-end route for a moment. The details matter.
1. So that was kohaku. Guess they didnt try to cover it up like what they did in Arc route where they purposely didnt show her eyesQuote:
Originally Posted by Nanaya