Most of those were obvious, but the Arihiko one gave me pause.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoydGolden
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Most of those were obvious, but the Arihiko one gave me pause.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoydGolden
Didnt expect all the Consort Yu is a TA jokes from FGO to be foreshadowing at the remake turning Satsuki into a TA instead of a DA cuz of ancient Zhenren ancestry.
Wait, was it seriously that convincing?Quote:
Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable
The others seemed ridiculous, but for some reason I found that plausible enough with the seeming extra focus on side characters.Quote:
Originally Posted by TomPen94
How does a 3 second clip of Arihiko saying "Good Morning Megane-kun" count as extra focus on side characters?
He now has the extremely rare skill of ENGURISH PUROFISHIENSHI I-EKUSU, ascending him to the highest orders of all TM characters, including the hot teachers and any and all immigrant Magic Tower employees.
How does it NOT?Quote:
Originally Posted by madarra
TBH Arihiko stole the show in OG Tsukihime too, it's just that he mostly disappeared after the main plot started.
We need to have a scene eating out with him like the one in KT.
Arihiko needs to ascend to his true status as Type SUN soon.
Wait, now that the whole thread has been overtaken by joke spoilers, I must ask, is the Saber to moonface connection still real?
Yes. It's all real. Every last word of it.
I believe nothing anymore.
As far as I know, I made it all up. But they wouldn’t tease a Saber-moon connection in a mats books ten years ago just for no payoff, right? Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable
I hope. It would be cool in any case, if Artoria returning as the once and future king involved her fighting against the Crimson Moon nature in her like Arc has to.
i'm not reading Tsukihime remake until it's in english.
But i have a few questions that I would like it to answer. I know that some have answers before, but i'm hoping for a clarification or retcon to streamline the universe better.
1. Can dead apostiles and servants be in the same universe?
2. If tsukihime and fate are in different universes what is the cause
3. Does the moon cell exist in this timeline. If it doesn't, why?
4. If the moon cell doesn't exist, how was velber resolved?
5. How are Tsukihime and Knk related? Are they in the same universe?
I'll return to this thread in a few months. I just want to put this here, before it blows up with spoilers.
1. Dead Apostles and Servants yes. Dead Apostle Ancestors, the group of 27 super powerful DAs, does not exist in Fate. The individual members exist but they're not grouped together as the Ancestors and some of them are dead in Fate (like Blackmore).
2. We don't know the cause of the divergence but based on Case Files Material it seems like it's related to Zelretch vs Crimson Moon in 300 AD?
3. Moon Cell is Fate/Extra only. It's not even in other Fate settings.
4. Velber landed on Earth directly in non-Extra worlds. She completely skipped over attacking the Moon Cell and 3D printing herself a new body on Earth.
5. I'm pretty sure there's some old statement that Tohno and Ryougi can't coexist because only one person can have the MEoDP? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong or misremembering. Also the KnK cast has recently shown up in the El-Melloi series which is pretty obviously on the Fate side.
2. The earliest point of divergence we have is Zelretch becoming a vampire in Tsukihime worlds and staying human (but still immortal through another method) in Fate/ worlds.
3. All we got on "why" is that Moon Cell and Crimson Moon can't coexist.
4. We still don't know what wiped out Brunestud's kingdom on the moon, but Velber is the most likely candidate because it'd weirdly convoluted to have two different invaders.
Might as well use the thread for its original purpose.
Spoiler:
I thought that theoretically, two MEoDP bearers could exist at once, but the likelihood is so low, it might as well be impossible?
This whole "dreams of what-ifs" thing feels weirdly meta, I don't know why. I could get as dumb as remake Shiki randomly remembering what doujin Shiki did and interacting directly with the differences, but I don't think Nasu would wait 13 years to Last Encore this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crown
It could be the new route defining circumstances.
- No what-ifs -> Arcueid
- If it was cloudy -> Shiki doesn't get marked with the memory the moon is beautiful -> Ignores Arcueid in favor of looking for Satsuki -> Akiha route
- If (Shiki?) noticed earlier -> Shiki never assumes killing Arcueid was a dream -> Ciel route
- If "he"(Roa?) hadn't degraded -> Stronger Roa = Stronger Satsuki (?) -> Satsuki route
- If "I"(Arcueid?) hadn't been born -> Arcueid, Ciel, and Roa are absent from Hisui's route, so dispensable Satsuki bit aside, Arcueid existing wouldn't make a difference -> Hisui route.
- If Shiki hadn't woke up there (during the Nanaya massacre) -> ????? -> New fully rewritten Kohaku route by process of elimination
That's... uh... wow...
No need to really use the spoiler tag going forward. Let the countdown begin.
Those lines can still apply to the two of them meeting, I think. What troubles me is that it came out of nowhere and that it was voiced. Why do that at such an early point? I mean, I would expect these kind of cryptic lines a la Mahoyo showing up between chapters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Comun
As if Mahoyo wasn't cryptic from the very first line.
Chapter list assuming the trophies have the same name as the chapters:
Shared between both routes
Arcueid Route
Ciel route
Side stories(?)
https://www.tmdict.com/en/ka.chapter-titles
Wasn't Endless Stone the name of one of the original Ciel route chapters?
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Also, Arc's route is called Tsukihime, and Ciel's is called Night Rainbow (夜の虹)
we've known this since the TM AceQuote:
Originally Posted by Gabriulio
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Originally Posted by Comun
Many of these are the same as the chapter titles from the OG (pic below). However the lack of 'Black Beast' makes me worry about Chaos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Comun
https://i.imgur.com/HKUP0v1.png
Well shit.
Analyzing the trophy descriptions...
It seems Arc's route will only have one ending, since there's one single trophy for "get Arcueid's ending", meanwhile Ciel has one for "get Ciel's TRUE ending". There's a generic "get one ending" trophy but it's named after Ciel's route.
Getting some mixed signals here. There's no trophy for "get Ciel's Normal/Good ending" but at the same time the other trophy specifies "Ciel's TRUE ending".
Ciel's gonna be the Akiha this time in terms of endings. 夜の虹 for Normal and 白日の碧 for True.
Kinda curious about why Arc only has one and is unclassified. Last Episode when.
Nasu's gonna pull a gotcha and have Nrvnqsr appear in the eventual Far Side routes, I'm willing to bet.
Or maybe he's saving him for a future work. The dude might be an iconic antagonist, but in hindsight he's kinda too big of a deal to be a offed so early in the story.
If Nrvnqsr gets completely replaced by Fire Man, are we going to change the forum's name and url?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanashi(kari)
it seems that I now actually have to steer clear from the spoiler thread
forums.fireman.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Comun
Easier to remember.
are you not entertained, is this not why you're hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Temflakes403
I can't wait for my copy to arrive. I literally can't.
T minus ten hours until this:
waku wakuQuote:
Originally Posted by Gabriulio
I thought we saw Nrvnqsr in a trailer already?
Edit: June trailer
Spoiler:
We just saw some black beast (I think it was a cat?) and people assumed it was him.
Theres a scene similar to the time Shiki first sees him too iirc.
I just think he's been upgraded threat wise rather being the first thing we meet.
we assumed it was himQuote:
Originally Posted by Reign
maybe him dying so early was enough of a justification to rename the chapters?
Dying early or not, it's kinda strange for there to not be a single chapter called "black beast" if that's the case. Assuming he's in, it would mean he's enough of a non-presence to not even have that honor.
Okay, so, hear me out.
The trophies list two scenes called Endless Stone and Endless Stone (R). You gain a trophy by finishing either of those, and they're not worded as chapters like the other trophies. In the original VN, Endless Stone was the name of the last scene of Ciel's route, where Shiki runs into Arc and chooses to submit to her (good ending) or refuse (true ending).
I'm guessing that those are some kind of hidden scenes, which you can get from either Arc or Ciel's route if you make a set of very specific choices. It's probably similar to the events of the original. Maybe it's the hidden goofy harem ending, I dunno.
So Blazing Blood River is likely to replace The Black Beast chapter.
If there's no Nrvnqsr, curious how the proper introduction between Shiki and Arcueid are going to be like. Having them just talking normally without staving off some vampiric hounds feels... dull? And I don't see the fire guy having any familiars that can look normal to public, at least not the will-o-the-wisp fire attacks.
inb4 they're gonna pull something like "fireman and nrvnqsr are friends so nrvnqsr lent some beasts to him. shiki and arc fight and kill fireman, beast looks at shiki and goes 'mmm... interesting' before disappearing into the night" bam, sequel hook.
We saw Arc fighting a big black jaguar in the alley in a trailer, so even if Nrvnqsr isn't here that still happens for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnesFleetingGlory
At this point I think they just redesigned him. That'd surely make up for the lack of Jouji Nakata :^)
So it's potentially unchanged, despite the change of chapter's name. Rewatching the trailers, looks like there are also ghouls involved. And it seems the fire guy is going to appear more in Ciel's route.
Nah clearly Nrvnqsr was Jouji's PC and they're retiring him to honor the guy's faithful years of service