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Exactly. A tyrant without any way to project their power and who there are no consequences from overthrowing isn't likely to last very long....

Well, they're the only people who lived in the US that far back....

Yeah, well, as I pointed out, I do not agree with that viewpoint. Professors have "authority" in a sense, but it is both earned and also not absolute. They can't force you to think as they do, or...

Well OK, but if they are being sensible then there would be no reason why I would desire to fight.



No, it's not at all, not least because the people doing it were doing so because those in...

Well, actually, congratulating people for improving even if they are still not doing brilliantly is generally quite effective....

Also, I'm not asking for "congratulations", just for them to...

Yeah, did you see me supporting that decision?

I do admit that, given his past behaviour and general intentions, I can somewhat understand their reasoning, but I still believe he should have been...

What?

If it was anti-authoritarian, then the entirety of the Communist party would have been shot....



Yeah, so I can come back and be treated like crap yet again....

I am doing this very reluctantly, because I am pretty sure it will only make things worse, but honestly I do not see any other option. I tried communicating with you, but you have just ignored me...

Yes (although the analogy is unfair), which is why I am trying to be more reasonable. But, Altima just seems to want to treat me like crap anyway, based on how I used to act.

The mods are once again being completely unjust, and I'm sick of it.

But there clearly is something to complain about.



Authority in that sense is not bad, no, but that is not in any way the same as the authority of a mod, police officer or even political...

She could be re-summoned though, in theory.

Yes, and? That doesn't prove anything, because Sakura should be close to Rin and Saber, not miles behind.

If that's true, though, wouldn't it mean that a future Rider (post Fate) would be unable to do so, since he died?

I don't think she's significantly less important than Saber. And, as for Rin, I'd say she's far more important to the overall story than Saber is. She links practically everything together, and...

Well, yes, OK, but it is still not a good idea to do nothing. Doing nothing just means the authorities win, and get to continue their oppression without consequence.



But, if you do not fight,...

Yeah, that's what I was assuming. I don't think he summoned the "real" Cthulu, any more than Rider summoned the real Pegasus.

Really? Because I haven't noticed....



Who?

Ayako? Zouken? Shinji? Assassin?

Sure Rin likes him, but I don't think that would have been sufficient. Rin couldn't justify to herself giving up such an advantage for a guy she has a vague crush on.



If that is true, then why...

Yes, but they are clearly not. If they were, they would at least be trying to talk to me and work things out, rather than just ignoring my message (which I did entirely privately, BTW) and just...

No, I'm not. Obviously Fate wouldn't work if Saber wasn't Saber, and UBW would be difficult. HF would work pretty well with any old Saber replacement, though.

If I had the ability to do that then, yes....

Honestly, though, when you're fighting an oppressive authority, you do everything you can to disrupt and annoy them without giving them a reason to...

I'm not convinced. I don't honestly believe that "hey, I have the hots for this guy" would be enough for her to give up her trump card, whereas looking out for Sakura is, IMO.

I agree with the first, but I think the second is pretty obviously not true. Rin is never comfortable or honest about her reasons for such things....

Sure, but that doesn't really make her important. You could replace her with some random servant and the result (as far as Shirou is concerned) would be the same. Her role there is mainly to provide...