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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1984 View Post
    But, what's to stop Rin teaching Sakura...?
    Pretty much was terraablaze said. It's canon, though I personally feel that it is kind of stupid, that magecraft gets weaker the more people know about it. Magi, even Rin, are hoarding bastards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyak View Post
    I think it is, actually.

    Maybe not via circuitry, but they are still linked to him in some way- see the vs Archer fight, where Kanshou sort of half-fades out, then Shirou renews it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TypeWannabe View Post
    Pretty much was terraablaze said. It's canon, though I personally feel that it is kind of stupid, that magecraft gets weaker the more people know about it. Magi, even Rin, are hoarding bastards.
    Plus, there's probably the "what's the point" aspect. Given that the amount you could teach somebody in an entire lifetime is going to be less than what's in the crest of your average magi house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1984 View Post
    But, what's to stop Rin teaching Sakura...?
    That's not relevant to my interest, lol.

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    Is it possible to increase the quality of your magic circuits by training? I distinctly remember Shirou saying that he needed to train his circuits for much more time before he can achieve UBW.

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    Element dictates what you are good at. Attribute determines how your spells operate. The Matou brand sorcery (Attribute) is draining (e.g. Sakura's tentacle drain), and binding (e.g. binding of shadow familiars).
    The binding (coercion) part was the forbidden art right? It also said they had specialization with familiars(which may or may not be a facet of binding).
    One thing I did want to confirm about information I heard was if absorption was potentially harmful to the caster, because iirc, it was said that the absorption did something to the body when they drained someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Junky View Post
    Is it possible to increase the quality of your magic circuits by training? I distinctly remember Shirou saying that he needed to train his circuits for much more time before he can achieve UBW.
    Probably is a way to increase capacity, which is what you would need for that I'd think. Since it's not about his circuits, he doesn't have the magical energy capacity at the moment to keep it up.



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    The example given was something about how if they wanted to poison someone they would end up poisoning themselves, because everything about their magic has to come back to them eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    The binding (coercion) part was the forbidden art right? It also said they had specialization with familiars(which may or may not be a facet of binding).
    One thing I did want to confirm about information I heard was if absorption was potentially harmful to the caster, because iirc, it was said that the absorption did something to the body when they drained someone.
    The Attribute itself is "Absorption", but it encompasses the aspect of "Binding" as well. The familiar-wielding is a reflection of the "Binding" aspect.

    The example given for "Absorption" is Zouken's vampire life-siphoning activities.

    Quote Originally Posted by Junky View Post
    Is it possible to increase the quality of your magic circuits by training? I distinctly remember Shirou saying that he needed to train his circuits for much more time before he can achieve UBW.
    That was referring to training Shirou so that he could pop open all his circuits at the same time. Check the CGs, you can see the effect.

    It was something like 1 active circuit -> several circuits -> 27 All Green (during UBW).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    The binding (coercion) part was the forbidden art right? It also said they had specialization with familiars(which may or may not be a facet of binding).
    One thing I did want to confirm about information I heard was if absorption was potentially harmful to the caster, because iirc, it was said that the absorption did something to the body when they drained someone.
    This
    "No, that is wrong. From the start, cursing is outside of the Makiri's area of expertise.
    The results of their magic always return to their bodies.
    Cursing others would only result in mutual destruction."
    is all I can think of, so if there's something else you're gonna have to get it from somebody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    This

    is all I can think of, so if there's something else you're gonna have to get it from somebody else.
    That was echoed in CM3.

    It is the manifestation of "Absorption". In essence, "what goes around, comes around", because you are "absorbing".

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    Though that seems like it kinda defeats the whole purpose if it comes back to you. So, let's say, if you absorb something from a hybrid, will you take their Inversion Impulse? Or if you do it to Vampires, will you take their Vampirism as well as their energy? Or is it just what you do that effects you as well. Poison for Poison, Drain for Drain, Curse for Curse.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    Though that seems like it kinda defeats the whole purpose if it comes back to you. So, let's say, if you absorb something from a hybrid, will you take their Inversion Impulse? Or if you do it to Vampires, will you take their Vampirism as well as their energy? Or is it just what you do that effects you as well. Poison for Poison, Drain for Drain, Curse for Curse.
    I don't know. There's only three lines of information. Not very much to go on.

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    Curses!



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    Can Avalon repair Magic Circuits?

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    Probably. It seems capable of repairing pretty much anything. That said we never see it do so.
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    "いかなる傷からも治癒し", heals any wounds.

    Cut circuits are wounds I assume?

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    It's unknown whether or not Gae Bolg wounds and the like can be healed, though. I kind of doubt it.
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    Doesn't Saber's wound from Gae Bolg finally heal when she activates Avalon?

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    I don't think she ever mentioned it again after the "LOL I WILL JUST PATCH THIS UP SO IT LOOKS HEALED BUT IT REALLY IS NOT".

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    She never gets around to that, she heals Shirou's Gae Bolg wound with it though so in theory it should work.
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    Araya, what is your favorite color?
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