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    It's a good think Saber's not a man, then.

    ... Usually.

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    But two men must enter. That's very clear in the rules. If Saber is known to be a woman she can't enter Thunderdome. It wasn't Two Women Enter, One Woman Leaves.


    Thunderdome was really more of the Gilgamesh vs Iskandar battle. Except that the rule became TWO MEN ENTER, THEN ANOTHER FEW THOUSAND ENTER LATER, THEN ONE MAN LEAVES.

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    Does this make Waver and Iskandar Master Blaster, meaning that Rider is a brain-damaged manchild?


    Because I can totally see that.

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    Question: Where do the games fall in a timeline? I can't remember and I'd appreciate it if someone could remind me or point me to where I can find out. Specifically, line up when Tsukihime, Kagetsu Tohya, Melty Blood (Actress again, Re-act, cadenza) take place. Like how Stay Night takes place 10 years after Zero in 2004, does anyone know specific dates of these games. When does Tsukihime take places, how many month(s) after does Kagetsu Tohya take place after it and when does Melty Blood take place following that. I just want confirmation please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiiam View Post
    Question: Where do the games fall in a timeline? I can't remember and I'd appreciate it if someone could remind me or point me to where I can find out. Specifically, line up when Tsukihime, Kagetsu Tohya, Melty Blood (Actress again, Re-act, cadenza) take place. Like how Stay Night takes place 10 years after Zero in 2004, does anyone know specific dates of these games. When does Tsukihime take places, how many month(s) after does Kagetsu Tohya take place after it and when does Melty Blood take place following that. I just want confirmation please.
    Day 1 of Tsukihime starts Thursday Oct 21, 1999 with Melty Blood taking place roughly 1 year after. Shouldn't Kagetsu Tohya happen in between the two?
    Last edited by RedisSupreme; October 11th, 2012 at 12:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedisSupreme View Post
    Tsukihime starts Oct 22 1998
    Really? That early? I always thought the events of Tsukihime and Fate/Stay night both took place in the early 2000s. But okay then. So how long does Kagetsu Tohya take place after that and how long does Melty blood take place after that?

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    Well given how close to the end of the year Oct 21 is, you might as well say the tsukihime storyline does take place early 2000's, since Kagetsu Tohya and Melty Blood almost certainly do.

    Laugh heartily at anyone who definitively gives a year date for Tsukihime. Really.
    Well retcons aside there's only 1 logical year for Thursday Oct 21.
    Last edited by RedisSupreme; October 11th, 2012 at 12:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    Laugh heartily at anyone who definitively gives a year date for Tsukihime. Really.
    Kay. But is there at least some accurate timeframe for when Kagetsu Tohya takes place after? Same with Melty Blood. Like, do they take place weeks, months, or a year or two after Tsukihime? That's the primary thing I want to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiiam View Post
    Kay. But is there at least some accurate timeframe for when Kagetsu Tohya takes place after? Same with Melty Blood. Like, do they take place weeks, months, or a year or two after Tsukihime? That's the primary thing I want to know.
    Kagetsu Tohya and Melty Blood both say they happen roughly a year after Tsukihime.

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    Yo, question on EMIYA/Shirou. By the time they manifest UBW, or have awakened to their RM, they're made of swords 24/7, right? I always got the impression that when Shirou starts healing and replacing wounds with swords, the swords are replacing what used to be strictly flesh and blood. Actually sprouting swords isn't his default state, but they are permanently made of swords. Is this correct or am I forgetting something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    its all 5 of the mysteries. let the saber wank flow through you.
    All 5 is kinda nonsensical.
    She can block the third magic! OH NOEZ
    [04:55] Lianru: i3uster is actuallly quite cute

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    Like how Stay Night takes place 10 years after Zero in 2004,
    Off by a year, 2005.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hymn of Ragnarok View Post
    Yo, question on EMIYA/Shirou. By the time they manifest UBW, or have awakened to their RM, they're made of swords 24/7, right? I always got the impression that when Shirou starts healing and replacing wounds with swords, the swords are replacing what used to be strictly flesh and blood. Actually sprouting swords isn't his default state, but they are permanently made of swords. Is this correct or am I forgetting something?
    I'm not sure if it was ever outright stated, but I believe he does slowly start going towards that state of being made of swords. The issue in Heavens Feel was twofold, Shirou drifting away from his old ideals, and of course, Archer being however many untold years ahead of Shirou in the development of that. I'm curious about the true answer to this as well, though.
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    Huh. By some random calcs I did by grabbing stuff off T-M wiki (Ciel's birthdate and age), I got 2000 for Tsuki, and Tsuki and Fate are supposed to be separated by less than a year.
    Now the question is: Is T-M wiki right? :V

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    Huh. By some random calcs I did by grabbing stuff off T-M wiki (Ciel's birthdate and age), I got 2000 for Tsuki, and Tsuki and Fate are supposed to be separated by less than a year.
    Now the question is: Is T-M wiki right? :V
    It must be wrong. There's a specific birthdate for Kirei (one of the only stated outright dates of day/month/year) and an age as of the Fate/Zero stated in the materials somewhere. It gives you 1995 as Heaven's Feel 4, so 2005 is Heaven's Feel 5 going by that firm date.


    It's in Seika's notes somewhere, but stuck at work so can't find it.

    EDIT: Scratch that. It's not dd/mm/yy but it is a definite year. From Fate/Zero: "...Kotomine Kirei. Born in 1967 …”
    (Fate/Zero, Volume 1, Act 1, Part 2)

    Q: Regarding Kotomine Kirei's life, could you disclose more details? Such as at what age did he graduate from the seminary, and at what age did he become an Executor.
    A: … At the age of 28, he lost his father Risei, and was given the position of a priest, albeit unofficially.
    (10th Anniversary Q&A)

    So yeah, 1995 for HF4 most likely.
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    Castah
    : I'm a fox, mostly.

    : Just like the magical nien-tailed foxes in Japan folklore, yep.

    : I mean, strictly speaking I'm a yakan. Like Dakini or the great goddess Inari.

    A yakan? Those Japanese tea kettles?

    : Hmmn, is that some kind of Freudian slip, Master?

    : Don't you know what a yakan is in Chinese buddhism? Would it help if I were to say jackal instead?

    Jackal? Like that species of wolf?
    But I didn't think those lived in
    ancient Japan…

    : That's riiight. That's why people mistake me for a fox!

    Which makes sense. Her ears are not as triangular as any fox's ears. It was actually bothering me. Good to know I still remember some basic facts.

    : And since I'm not really a yakan either, I don't mind being treated like a fox.

    : In fact, foxes are better! They're so much cuter.

    I understand now.

    That explains the weird aggression
    she has sometimes, but I still don't
    understand her Noble Phantasm.

    : My Noble Phantasm is a mirror, but in essence it is a symbol for the sun and water, for life and death.

    : Obviously anything that gives life also has power over death.

    : Haven't you ever noticed that the Egyptian god of the death has the face of a jackal?

    : As a fellow jackal, I have the same powers. Dog-faces aren't my thing, though.



    If the heart was heavier, it would
    be devoured. If it was lighter, the
    person passed to the afterlife.

    Is she really comparing herself to
    such important figures? I know
    Tamamo-no-mae is famous, but…


    conversational reference from the lets play, castah spoilers unavoidable, of course
    That always bugged me. Anubis isn't the god of the dead. He's the god of mummification (which was apparently important enough to the Egyptians that they had a god for it). Osiris is the god and judge of the dead and he is the one who weighs your soul against the feather.

    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    Well excuse me for not exactly remembering an info plate I read months ago. :V

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    Huh, that's pretty cool and sufficiently Nasu-y. Thanks for writing it up!
    Yeah, unfortunately it is rather in-character for Nasu to needlessly complicate things like that. Don't know why he couldn't just go with "she was a kitsune who wasn't really evil and just had a bad rep". Wanking her as some aspect of a goddess she's only vaguely connected to and then saying "but she can never have her goddess powers" seems kind of pointless to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verg Avesta View Post
    So, what, friendship is True Magic?
    I am amazed no one made the obvious MLP:FiM joke. I sifted through all these pages expecting one and nothing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Verg Avesta View Post
    Also, this. "Snipe Zeus' son with lightning." Brilliant.
    Although I know Iskander's MR is shit and its never stated anywhere that he has resistence to lightning attacks, I have to admit that did make me laugh. The real question is can Roa actually aim the lightning well enough to strike Iskander instead of the bulls or the chariot while Iskander is flying around on the damn thing. Nevermind the RM cuz' if Iskander can actually use that Roa is dead meat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tangerang View Post
    Ah, I get it now, is it that time of year again? Time for Roa wank? The old 'Roa can beat Greek heroes' leading up to 'Roa can beat Greek legends' finishing with 'Roa versus Hercules' huh?
    This is actually a regular thing? Wow, glad I missed that last year...

    Quote Originally Posted by Vagrant View Post
    Maybe Iskander creates a protective shield of lightning over his head that envelops the chariot. One might even call it... THUNDERDOME.
    You actually went there...

    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    All 5 is kinda nonsensical.
    She can block the third magic! OH NOEZ
    Yeah, blocking someone's attempts to ressurect you and/or turn you into some kind of immortal being with near-infinite magic does sound kind of pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    Yeah, blocking someone's attempts to ressurect you and/or turn you into some kind of immortal being with near-infinite magic does sound kind of pointless.
    That is a perfectly good and useful ability to have.

    Would you want to be stuck as a Counter Guardian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    Huh. By some random calcs I did by grabbing stuff off T-M wiki (Ciel's birthdate and age), I got 2000 for Tsuki, and Tsuki and Fate are supposed to be separated by less than a year.
    Now the question is: Is T-M wiki right? :V
    Ciel's age is "an eternal mystery, that even Nasu doesn't understand". If you've pinned it down, you're wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyrin View Post
    That is a perfectly good and useful ability to have.

    Would you want to be stuck as a Counter Guardian?
    Counter Guardianss aren't immortal, they're dead. :|

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