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[Christemo]

To be fair that particular farmer also beat reality

No rules can limit and comprehend Kojiro´s hatred for birds.

[RavingScholar]

The (not-Shirou) narration flat-out goes and says that his sword skills "surpasses Servants", even in the game itself.

Yes, but Side Material just adds the icing to the metaphorical cake. Mmm, cake...

[Kyte]

And if he didn't have the higher ground she'd slice him in half in a single charge or maybe he would have immediately used TG who knows bla bla bla.
Look, they are both excellent swordsmen. Kojiro would have won if his sword hadn't bent, yes, but he had some clear advantages over Saber too - longer sword and higher ground for starters, and she still caused him enough trouble to force him to take desperate measures like blocking her strike even though he knew his sword would take some toll. I know downwanking Saber is fun, but it's simply wrong to say that she sucks and that she only won thanks to luck ( or even worse; that Kojiro let her win, which is completely against his character or the point of their fight ).

If they'd fought on level ground then Kojiro could've busted out Tsubame Gaeshi from the get go. And thanks to Knowledge of Respect and Harmony and Tsubame Gaeshi's own nature, he could've spammed it over and over and Artie would've been powerless to counter. To him the higher ground was a disadvantage.

I'm not downwanking Seiba. Kojiro was just that good.

[Kelnish]

If they'd fought on level ground then Kojiro could've busted out Tsubame Gaeshi from the get go. And thanks to Knowledge of Respect and Harmony and Tsubame Gaeshi's own nature, he could've spammed it over and over and Artie would've been powerless to counter. To him the higher ground was a disadvantage.

I'm not downwanking Seiba. Kojiro was just that good.

Meh. Mai waifu saw him going all out and was like "well, I guess I'll use my third-stringer move to kill him dead". My cute little king is too powerlevels.

[Tobias]

Why am I just hearing of this scene? It sounds awesome. I really must try to level up my moonrune skills.

BTW, I was having a discussion with someone else about this, but when it comes to using modified swords as arrows, Vajra is the best thing for Shirou to use, not Hrunting, right? What do you guys think?

Hanafuda is completely translated in the current HA patch.

[Christemo]

Meh. Mai waifu saw him going all out and was like "well, I guess I'll use my third-stringer move to kill him dead". My cute little king is too powerlevels.

Plot Armor at Rank A.

[Satehi]

His sword skill itself is a divine mystery on the level of Noble Phantasms. That's pretty godly. The only reason it's not an overwhelming advantage is because everything else he's got is kind of crap.

その果てにサーヴァントの宝具が備える神秘と互角の剣技を得るに至った。

Oh, dear. It doesn't seem to be talking about Tsubame Gaeshi. It seems to be talking about his sword technique in general. Tsubame Gaeshi is just sort of the culmination of all that.

Sasaki > Saber in swordsmanship.

[BlackField]

If they'd fought on level ground then Kojiro could've busted out Tsubame Gaeshi from the get go. And thanks to Knowledge of Respect and Harmony and Tsubame Gaeshi's own nature, he could've spammed it over and over and Artie would've been powerless to counter. To him the higher ground was a disadvantage.

I'm not downwanking Seiba. Kojiro was just that good.

Might as well say Saber busts out Excalibur on the get go, or Emiya and UBW, or Gil and Ea or Lancer and Gae Bolg(and he can spam the shit out of this).

Saying that he'll just use TG as soon as he gets in range is silly and the advantages Saber gets from fighting on equal ground will be able to stop him from using TG, he does need to position his body to use it, he can't just use it without setup.

Of course he'll still win but its not nearly as one sided as you are making it out to be.

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Sasaki > Saber in swordsmanship.

Sasaki>everyone at swordsmanship.

I don't see why people single out Saber apart from for some bizarre hipster shit of taking down the big guy. The funny thing is the actual amount of people who dislike Saber actually outnumbers the people who like her and therefore all you are doing is circle jerking while thinking it makes you edgy. If anything the Saber fans are the true hipsters at this point and I don't even like Saber.

[Zenieth]

Thing is random farmer doesn't need mystery or crystalization or concepts or fucking awesome tech from the past.

He just requires his hatred of birds

While being some random schmuck who used to be a farmer.

What have your heroes done with their life without legend hype? Yamato supreme

[BlackField]

Won 12 impossible battles, killed dragons, fought armies of super soliders and won, killed the gods?

[Zenieth]

While being dirt potato farmers?

That's what i though.

[Kelnish]

Beat Gilgamesh, King Arthur, Herakles, and a Kung Fu priest? Oh, wait. YAMATO SUPREME!

[Zenieth]

Obviously Shirou was destined to be greater than All.

Yamato blood + Yamato Mana transfer.

King of Heroes stood no chance.

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Did inferior German loli manage to recreate magic of her ancestors?

No, Superior Yamato Black Hole.

Japan too strong.

[Reynel]

Well, we have three routes, and the king dies in the three. In the first, against the king of knights with the help of Avalon. in the second we have a random yamato boy, and in the third a random yamato girl.

[BlackField]

Beat Gilgamesh, King Arthur, Herakles, and a Kung Fu priest? Oh, wait. YAMATO SUPREME!

That's why the most powerful version of Shirou chants in English, uses a western style bow, uses western style archery and uses chinese swords as standard. Yamato is worse race, Emiya confirmed.

[Zenieth]

And yet Superior Westaboo Cali tan Yamato ultimately lost to his inferior true to Yamato spirit past self.

[Reynel]

That's why the most powerful version of Shirou chants in English, uses a western style bow, uses western style archery and uses chinese swords as standard. Yamato is worse race, Emiya confirmed.

Well, you see it like that, I see it like: "OMG! can you imagine him using yamato stuff!?".

[Zenieth]

Exactly, if Archer hadn't betrayed his Yamato heritage, he'd have soloed Herc, with Yamato glory to spare.

[BlackField]

And yet Superior Westaboo Cali tan Yamato ultimately lost to his inferior true to Yamato spirit past self.

We all know that was because he went all Japanese introspection rather than western style "fuck yeah, I'm a fucking superhero and I can kill shit and get all the fucking babes. Yeah, muthafucking Iron Man all up this bitch". Shirou has a western mentality "fuck the past, Imma do what I want and no future version of me telling me about how to live my life. He's a fucking pussy anyway".

[Zenieth]

And yet Shirou goes on to revel in superior Yamato Rin rather than inferior Western Saber and proceed to utterly defeat the King of Heroes. His heart still true to Yamato way of life.