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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratman View Post
    Emiya resolves everything with an OP NP and you know it.

    It's DOUBLE NP even, because he uses his NP, UBW, to produce another NP.

    Anyway, all the knight classes are pretty strong even without their bling, it's just that not having it nerfs them really hard relatively to what they were with it.
    But UBW isn't a NP. EMIYA himself says so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    But it's not technically a NP!

    Emiya.
    But he got UBW
    I wanna see a servant that wins a fight by using his wit and owns a kinda normal/shitty NP
    The only servant i can think off right now is robin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChildOfMike View Post
    So, is there any servant that is actually useful without an all resolving OP Noble Phantasm?
    Is there any magus that don't rely on magecraft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChildOfMike View Post
    But he got UBW
    I wanna see a servant that wins a fight by using his wit and owns a kinda normal/shitty NP
    The only servant i can think off right now is robin.
    Like I've said, Medea.
    Even if Medea kinda does own an EX rank NP, but that's neither here or there.

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    The Noble Phantasms are basically what defines them and their trump cards. Unless you go for exceptions or Casters, who rely mainly on magecraft/special conditions, you aren't going to find a lot of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratman View Post
    Like I've said, Medea.
    Even if Medea kinda does own an EX rank NP, but that's neither here or there.
    well yup, medea surely counts as the witty one. I wish there are more servant like this though rather than the ones that just barges in on a fight and slings nuclear missile everywhere
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    Because throwing magic missiles everywhere is very different.

    It's less effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Because throwing magic missiles everywhere is very different.

    It's less effective.
    At least the magic missiles ain't the hax NP that can rip off time-space
    Seriously, what's the fun in a story where the characters can just use 'I push this button, all of you are dead'. It's anticlimatic
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    Why did you enjoy Fate/Stay Night enough to get all the way to Heaven's Feel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Why did you enjoy Fate/Stay Night enough to get all the way to Heaven's Feel?
    UBW: Rin as the heroine! :3 Gotta read it!
    HF: Hmm. Might as well finish it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChildOfMike View Post
    At least the magic missiles ain't the hax NP that can rip off time-space
    Seriously, what's the fun in a story where the characters can just use 'I push this button, all of you are dead'. It's anticlimatic
    I take it you didn't like Hokuto no Ken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Why did you enjoy Fate/Stay Night enough to get all the way to Heaven's Feel?
    Spoiler:
    I'm still a young chuuninbyou back then
    . The endless torrent of servants with super OP NP today just to make themselves a credible threat is wearing out on me. A ranked NP that can rip a single town in a thousand ways a handed out like candies and I have a feeling that this franchise is slowly turning into something akin to bleach.
    I don't something like that to happen to my favorite franchise T_T
    Sorry for blog
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratman View Post
    Like I've said, Medea.
    Even if Medea kinda does own an EX rank NP, but that's neither here or there.
    And here I thought it was a skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChildOfMike View Post
    So, is there any servant that is actually useful without an all resolving OP Noble Phantasm?
    Avenger. At murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChildOfMike View Post
    At least the magic missiles ain't the hax NP that can rip off time-space
    Seriously, what's the fun in a story where the characters can just use 'I push this button, all of you are dead'. It's anticlimatic
    Technically the fight escalating to the point where the Servants have to settle it by smashing their legendary weapons against each other as hard as they can with a flashy light show to go along with it is pretty much the prototypical climax. They both give it their all for a single moment and no one is quite sure who is going to be the winner until the dust clears.

    And there's a big point to be made about how most of the Grail War is finding out who has what Noble Phantasm because not all Noble Phantasms work equally well in all situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackField View Post
    And here I thought it was a skill.
    She has it as a skill, because it doesn't matter, but it's a Noble Phantasm in all regards.

    Someone else, presumably Iásón, could use it, and would have it as an ex ranked NP, because dragons be wack, yo.

    All there in the CM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratman View Post
    She has it as a skill, because it doesn't matter, but it's a Noble Phantasm in all regards.

    Someone else, presumably Iásón, could use it, and would have it as an ex ranked NP, because dragons be wack, yo.

    All there in the CM.
    Her dragon is relatively weak. No way it's EX-rank np.

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    And yet it is.
    Ragnarok, come day of wrath
    That fallen souls might bear our plea.
    To hasten the Divine's return.
    O piteous Wanderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    And yet it is.
    The coin is an EX skill. That says nothing about the NP rank, or the rank of the dragon.

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    Fair.

    Although we do know the rank of the dragon.

    "Not that strong" rank.
    Ragnarok, come day of wrath
    That fallen souls might bear our plea.
    To hasten the Divine's return.
    O piteous Wanderer.

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