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    No, there must be a logical reason!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kay4today View Post
    No, there must be a logical reason!
    Brain damage.

    Which is handy explanation for all of HF, now that I think about it.

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    He has to spare the projection for waifu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    He has to spare the projection for waifu.
    why not both

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    He has to spare the projection for waifu.
    Project rule breaker stab saber, put it in his pocket, go save sakura.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Project rule breaker stab saber, put it in his pocket, go save sakura.
    Projection would fall apart by then.

    ....I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loyal-to-Lelouch View Post
    Projection would fall apart by then.

    ....I think.
    Jewel sword lasted a couple of hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kay4today View Post
    why not both
    Because he already has to defeat Alter first, which requires at least Rho Aias. Two projections is the limit. A third one warrants death.

    Unless Illya, but he doesn't know that.

    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Project rule breaker stab saber, put it in his pocket, go save sakura.
    You should know better, You.
    Last edited by Daiki; November 14th, 2013 at 03:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    Because he already has to defeat Alter first, which requires at least Rho Aias. Two projections is the limit. A third one warrants death.

    Unless Illya, but he doesn't know that.
    Stab Saber. Go to Sakura with the same one. Stab Sakura.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    Because he already has to defeat Alter first, which requires at least Rho Aias. Two projections is the limit. A third one warrants death.

    Unless Illya, but he doesn't know that.
    Doesn't he project Caladbolg, Rho Aias, Rule Breaker and Black Excalibur in the path leading to Normal End?
    Meaning he has three projections to go with, with the 4th one killing him.
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    using caladbolg gaurantees he dies, IIRC, on the end where he lives its just rho aius and the one rulebreaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by kay4today View Post
    Stab Saber. Go to Sakura with the same one. Stab Sakura.
    Doesn't work like that. We're talking about a Servant able to block four attacks at the same time. (with two coming from unexpected angles)

    He gets killed before even trying to stab her.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polly View Post
    Doesn't he project Caladbolg, Rho Aias, Rule Breaker and Black Excalibur in the path leading to Normal End?
    Meaning he has three projections to go with, with the 4th one killing him.
    Caladbolg is optional. The limit is three, as demonstrated in Sparks Liner High. By the point he projects the last one, he already ceased existing as a human being anyway.

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    GRIMMDARK is the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    Doesn't work like that. We're talking about a Servant able to block four attacks at the same time. (with two coming from unexpected angles)

    He gets killed before even trying to stab her.
    Simple: He stabs her with Rule Breaker at the same part where he stabs her with the dagger in canon.

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    No, using Caladbolg and destroying the Grail guarantees he dies; if he doesn't use Caladbolg he can use a Rule Breaker on Saber.

    Theoretically ( and I repeat- theoretically ), Saber could get purified like Sakura and, if she still has enough mana reserves after firing an Excaliblast and regenerating, she could destroy the Grail instead of Shirou. And everyone gets to live happily ever after. Nasu could have written it that way had he wanted to, but he wanted to have Saber die so that the point of Shirou abandoning his ideals and choosing Sakura, and Sakura only, gets deep into the reader's head.
    Saber's more or less the embodiment of his ideals, so by killing her he... well, you get the picture.
    My attempts at being a (fanfic) writer:

    Eclipse - a Saber Alter oneshot
    Requiem for a Race - Altrouge and Ortenrosse hunt the TAs ( 1/3 chapters, discontinued )
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    Devil's Thrill - Narbareck hunts down a DAA Blackmore ( 10/10 chapters, finished )
    Boundary of Loneliness - Ryougi Shiki/Alphard Al-Shua oneshot. Lemon-flavoured

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    Quote Originally Posted by kay4today View Post
    Simple: He stabs her with Rule Breaker at the same part where he stabs her with the dagger in canon.
    Inb4 shape of rulebreaker doesnt let that happen due to reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polly View Post
    No, using Caladbolg and destroying the Grail guarantees he dies; if he doesn't use Caladbolg he can use a Rule Breaker on Saber.

    Theoretically ( and I repeat- theoretically ), Saber could get purified like Sakura and, if she still has enough mana reserves after firing an Excaliblast and regenerating, she could destroy the Grail instead of Shirou. And everyone gets to live happily ever after. Nasu could have written it that way had he wanted to, but he wanted to have Saber die so that the point of Shirou abandoning his ideals and choosing Sakura, and Sakura only, gets deep into the reader's head.
    Saber's more or less the embodiment of his ideals, so by killing her he... well, you get the picture.
    Heaven's Feel is worst route

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    Caladbolg is optional. The limit is three, as demonstrated in Sparks Liner High. By the point he projects the last one, he already ceased existing as a human being anyway.
    What are you talking about? Yeah, sure, Caladbolg is optional, but the Normal End path demonstrates that he can do four projections before dropping dead. Even after projecting Caladbolg, Rho Aias, and Rule Breaker he's still not (brain)dead.
    My attempts at being a (fanfic) writer:

    Eclipse - a Saber Alter oneshot
    Requiem for a Race - Altrouge and Ortenrosse hunt the TAs ( 1/3 chapters, discontinued )
    Memories of a King - a 'Saber Origins' story ( 8/? chapters, discontiuned )
    A Small Warmth - a post UBW-Good oneshot, Saber/Rin
    Devil's Thrill - Narbareck hunts down a DAA Blackmore ( 10/10 chapters, finished )
    Boundary of Loneliness - Ryougi Shiki/Alphard Al-Shua oneshot. Lemon-flavoured

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    Quote Originally Posted by kay4today View Post
    Simple: He stabs her with Rule Breaker at the same part where he stabs her with the dagger in canon.
    Like I said, he can't. Because in order to stab her, he needs to break her guard with Rho Aias and Bellerophon. Using it on her is a gamble he wouldn't take. Because body and mind are already falling apart, there's no guarantee he could keep the mental image for the projection long enough to use it on Sakura.

    Can't spare it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polly View Post
    What are you talking about? Yeah, sure, Caladbolg is optional, but the Normal End path demonstrates that he can do four projections before dropping dead. Even after projecting Caladbolg, Rho Aias, and Rule Breaker he's still not (brain)dead.
    He can't even remember Rider's name. Come on.

    And the four projection, he is only an automaton who ceases to being human. Read it again.
    Last edited by Daiki; November 14th, 2013 at 04:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    He can't even remember Rider's name. Come on.
    That proves just about nothing.
    My attempts at being a (fanfic) writer:

    Eclipse - a Saber Alter oneshot
    Requiem for a Race - Altrouge and Ortenrosse hunt the TAs ( 1/3 chapters, discontinued )
    Memories of a King - a 'Saber Origins' story ( 8/? chapters, discontiuned )
    A Small Warmth - a post UBW-Good oneshot, Saber/Rin
    Devil's Thrill - Narbareck hunts down a DAA Blackmore ( 10/10 chapters, finished )
    Boundary of Loneliness - Ryougi Shiki/Alphard Al-Shua oneshot. Lemon-flavoured

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