If Zelretch summoned a billion Emiya Shirous from alternate universes into one universe, would Excalibur and Ea become the only swords valid for heroic spirit worthy deeds?
EDIT: Slight change that could technically have been a clarification: Assume that by Zelretch I mean the magic, not necessarily the person.
Last edited by shiningphoenix; February 4th, 2014 at 12:04 AM.
Originally Posted by Tobias
Nope. Cause you see author's can do something called retconning.
They litterally can go back and say, nope didn't mean that it meant the opposite. Or, I don't like this lets change it.
Sure people don't like it but it is something that they are allowed to do.
Anything the author says about their fictional universe is true, simply by the fact that they are the only person who decides what the fictional universe is like. Even if they end up contradicting themselves they are still the one who makes the rules and honestly anything we say about it means fuckall.
No, because no matter how many cheap Chinese knock-offs you have, they'll still only ever be Chinese knock-offs
Also, Shirou doesn't use the swords he copies, they use him.
Localizationing stuff
If an author says A and !A, then at any given point in time, one of those statements is incorrect.
If you claim that everything the author has said is correct, then (A & !A) -> "Shinji has the skill 'High-Speed Divine Words' with rank EX"
That's an answer I didn't expect.
Yeah, I remember he said something about "the experience of its original owner", when he traced Caliburn to fight Berserker in the Fate route.
Last edited by deimos; February 4th, 2014 at 12:41 AM.
Heraclitus mocks you and does not mock you.
Ragnarok, come day of wrath
That fallen souls might bear our plea.
To hasten the Divine's return.
O piteous Wanderer.
You do not know what "word of god" means do you?
The author can give a contradiction, if they wanted to, and say both statements are true, and it would be in the context of that fictional universe no matter what anyone says.
Want to know why? Cause they are the only and absolute authority on everything in that fictional universe. Anything anyone else thinks, says, and reasons means jack shit in the context of that universe unless the Author says it is part of the universe.
*Cue picture of Excalibur wielding Emiya Shirou as a sword and fighting Herk*
But Shirou can't project Excalibur! /completelymissingthepoint.
Besides, Herakles doesn't take any crap from Excalibur. He just smacks it down no problem.
Now, Caliburn, that's dangerous,
Ragnarok, come day of wrath
That fallen souls might bear our plea.
To hasten the Divine's return.
O piteous Wanderer.
Technically, Herk never fights Excalibur. He fights Invisible Air.
Caliburn is immune to the problem of it's laser being donkey punched.
Made of pure Plotanium, forged in the fires of Mount Deus-Ex-Machina, using the ancient and secret technique know as the Handwavius. Truly, it is a most potent weapon.
Last edited by forumghost; February 4th, 2014 at 01:49 AM.
Caliburn: Rank EX++++++++
Effect: Can hold off Herserkules and pissed Gil even if wielded by stupid redhead kid.
Bad End 8, he just smacks it aside when Saber tries to Excaliblast him.
Ragnarok, come day of wrath
That fallen souls might bear our plea.
To hasten the Divine's return.
O piteous Wanderer.
Yet again am I in awe and terror of Herakles.
I think this was an idea pitched by a few members far back in this thread that we, as in modern society, don't need the heroes of old anymore. Sure, we don't have super fantasy things anymore but society had evolved to be sufficient and effective enough to ensure the relative prosperity and skill of the majority of humans. That we can all be special, instead of the few. So we don't have to feel too bitchy about too little Heroic Spirits of the modern age and future.
I dunno, that really depends on Nasu then, because Caliburn is supposed to be the shittier blade but all evidence points to the other way around.
If you want to go powerlevels then that was specifically an incomplete Excaliblast due to lack of prana.
It's just that I didn't provide context because I was continuing the joke.
Ragnarok, come day of wrath
That fallen souls might bear our plea.
To hasten the Divine's return.
O piteous Wanderer.
Caliburn is the shittier blade but has the better special skills attached to it, easy as that.
Its like the difference between a sword with 100 attack and a sword qith 50 attack and the "double action" skill on it.
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