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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    I'm speaking from memory so I'm probably wrong, but.


    I think the key point is, her dragon reactor was already working in the beginning of Fate.
    It only stopped working when she emptied her prana reserves (see Ciel's "car without fuel" analogy in the end of Arc route).

    Then Shirou restarted it and started providing prana of his own. The second part is important.
    Without Shirou's prana, Saber would be like in the first days of the war, unable to use Excalibur without risking her existence.
    With Shirou's support, she can empty herself without fear because Shirou's prana will get her going again.
    The prana at the temple doesn't really matter since she needs to get it from Shirou and he can only process a tiny amount regardless of what's around him.

    And it doesn't make sense that her dragon reactor would be online in the beginning but she still has such prana issues. Just getting ready to unleash Invisible Air (or was it Excalibur) against Kojiro KO'd her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    The prana at the temple doesn't really matter since she needs to get it from Shirou and he can only process a tiny amount regardless of what's around him.

    And it doesn't make sense that her dragon reactor would be online in the beginning but she still has such prana issues. Just getting ready to unleash Invisible Air (or was it Excalibur) against Kojiro KO'd her.
    Um, what temple?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    Even in the prana-saturated grounds of Ryuudouji in the end of the Fate, Saber needed a CS to be able to use Excalibur.
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    Actually, I always thought Saber needed a CS because she was bound by some rule to not destroy the Grail or something, as a Servant. Never thought of it again until now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirou View Post
    So does this actually mean that the only Church Magic (besides the ones from the 8th Sacrament and Burial Agency) around is just the Baptismal Sacrament? Or is this something about translation? I just want to make sure.
    It probably refers to the Sacrament as a whole. That is to say, the Sacrament is the only thing allowed within the church, but Baptism isn't the only one of them. This quote kind of elaborates a little on how it works.

    About the Magic Circuits, a normal person rarely acquires Magic Circuits. You can consider such cases sudden mutations. However, Kirei is not of this type. Kirei's Circuits were a gift from the divine sacrament, rewarding his father Risei's years of pious worship. Kirei was born with "the right to recreate the miracles in the divine sacrament". This "right", in other words, was the Magic Circuits. Caren did not inherit the Circuits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    The prana at the temple doesn't really matter since she needs to get it from Shirou
    Not so sure. Dragons "breathe", i.e. interact directly with nature.
    Last edited by aldeayeah; August 6th, 2014 at 10:06 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    It probably refers to the Sacrament as a whole. That is to say, the Sacrament is the only thing allowed within the church, but Baptism isn't the only one of them. This quote kind of elaborates a little on how it works.
    Whats that quote from?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    And it doesn't make sense that her dragon reactor would be online in the beginning but she still has such prana issues.
    I think people overestimate the dragon reactor, to be honest. It may be powerful, but I think Saber needs to spend all of that power to become a juggernaut instead of a little girl, and to fire lazors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maple-tan View Post
    Whats that quote from?
    FES Q&A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    Fact: HF True Sakura is said to be a working Grail.
    Fact: There was a big cave-in in the Great Grail at the end of HF.

    Question 1: Is HF Normal Sakura a working Grail? If not, why?
    Question 2: Is the Great Grail effectively dismantled after the cave-in? [I always assumed it was a "yes", but see Question 3]
    Question 3: If the answer to Q2 is yes, how can HF True Sakura be still a Grail?
    Question 4: If the answer to Q2 is no, will she stop being a Grail when the Great Grail is dismantled?
    I guess the answer to question 3 is, because she can.

    …That's right.
    Sakura's body still has after-effects from Angra Manyu.
    Even with the contract broken, she's still a Holy Grail.
    She was connected to Angra Manyu, so she's still connected with the other side.
    Vast amounts of magical energy are collecting in Sakura's body, and she has to periodically let it out.

    It's because of that magical energy that she can keep Rider, even after the Great Holy Grail's destruction.
    But she still can't use it all, so she must be giving the surplus to Shirou.
    Shirou's current body has a very weak Magic Circuit, so he would return to how he was before without her help.

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    Thanks for actually checking the game, You. That answers 2, 3 and 4, and is in line with what castor said before.

    Which leaves 1.
    don't quote me on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    We do?
    I would think so even if the ruby said Ether in CCC.
    It depends if having Ether in the air is having Mana in the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    The prana at the temple doesn't really matter since she needs to get it from Shirou and he can only process a tiny amount regardless of what's around him.

    And it doesn't make sense that her dragon reactor would be online in the beginning but she still has such prana issues. Just getting ready to unleash Invisible Air (or was it Excalibur) against Kojiro KO'd her.
    I thought she passed out from the strain of suppressing Invisible Air and Excalibur when she was about to release them.
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    The description is that she was about to release a lot of magical energy at once and then shut down like a circuit breaker going off.

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    Where it's stated that Servants doesn't have Magic Circuits? I remember that Saber said otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaRbS View Post
    Where it's stated that Servants doesn't have Magic Circuits? I remember that Saber said otherwise.
    I do believe it comes from the fact that Magic Circuit is a thing of "modern" magi. That limits it to those who are magi in past life, and not from the Age of the Gods. So far, not all HS we've known meet those requirements.

    This is just me assuming, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaRbS View Post
    Where it's stated that Servants doesn't have Magic Circuits? I remember that Saber said otherwise.
    Angra has circuits.
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    Time to go to the holodeck! *Rams head up Sakura's vagina*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuradora View Post
    Angra has circuits.
    Source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Source?
    HA. Read the scene where he and Bazett break into the Tohsaka mansion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vigilantia View Post
    Time to go to the holodeck! *Rams head up Sakura's vagina*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuradora View Post
    HA. Read the scene where he and Bazett break into the Tohsaka mansion.
    Ahh. I dont dare reading HA just yet, though.
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    Magical energy is constantly created within oneself. A Servant without any outside source can create magical energy using its own Magic Circuit.
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