Questions, questions and more questions (READ THE OP FOR ANSWERS)

[mewarmo990]

Clearly elite sword swallowers must have "sheath" as their origin.

Do you have to get tested for that?

[LoyaltL]

Well, the Knight was holding a sword. Does that count?

Too less.

[Gray]

What happened to Sella and Leysritt after all the routes in the VN? I understand they showed up for all of 5 minutes in the original but just curious.

[Kotonoha]

Liz dies when Illya dies. Sella doesn't die unless killed (yeah yeah) so she's going to stare off into space forever.

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At least in UBW and HF it's a fair assumption that they got squashed by Gilgamesh and Zouken's forces.

I'm pretty sure Sella was still around in HF.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

At least in UBW and HF it's a fair assumption that they got squashed by Gilgamesh and Zouken's forces.

Liz presumably dies in UBW at the same time Dr Gil is working his magic. She is also around for Illya to get the dress in HF.

Sella is obviously taking the time to secretly cruise around in the Mercedes.

[Megas]

Wait, so does Liz die with Ilya a little while after fate too?

[Kotonoha]

Liz is basically part of Illya so if Illya dies she does too, yes.

She can die earlier though, there was something about only being able to be awake for a certain number of hours a day before it would shorten her lifespan.

[LoyaltL]

It does make Liz dies right there with Illya in UBW.

Dammit why did I see this. ;_;

[madarra]

i always...ok not always since i just read F/HA recently but i thought the thing about Liz dying after illya was because "her sense of self is closely tied to illya" so if illya died,she`d just go catatonic/shut down and die as a result of it


also, while on F/HA, some stuff i found weird/didnt get,

Rider works in an antique`s shop despite being inable to control her strength enough to wash dishes.

and Caren outside the dream knowing how Avenger looked like inside the dream despite dream Caren saying she`s special so her info wont get copied to the real one

[Kotonoha]

The Rider point at least can probably just be blamed on ghostwriters.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

and Caren outside the dream knowing how Avenger looked like inside the dream despite dream Caren saying she`s special so her info wont get copied to the real one

This is "loleclipse"

[Kotonoha]

Yeah word of god about Sequel is "don't think too deeply about it".

[GaRbS]

How strong is Bazett in comparison with Servants?

[Tobias]

She is weaker then ciel. Barring fragerach, she doesn't have a prayer. Even a Hassan would be expected to outclass her.

[madarra]

i thought so after i hear of the ghostwriters but i still thought i should check if other people found something i didnt...

[GaRbS]

Yeah, a Hassan already killed her in F/HA. I assume she is weaker than Avalon!Kerry and Hero!Kotomine as well? Since they can actually defeat a Hassan.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Uh? She gets killed a lot of times, but also kills a lot of them because of what's going on in HA. She actually has more offensive oomph than either of them, it just has to be under certain circumstances for max effectiveness.

[Broke]

Yeah, a Hassan already killed her in F/HA. I assume she is weaker than Avalon!Kerry and Hero!Kotomine as well? Since they can actually defeat a Hassan.

Avalon!Kerry can defeat Hassans?

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Avalon!Kerry can defeat Hassans?

Einzbern Consultation Room

[GaRbS]

Of course you can defeat an opponent if you know exactly what is he going to do. But in their first encounter, Bazett was owned by 3rdWar!Hassan. Also, let's not forget she got help from Avenger, even if he is weak, Verg Avesta is useful even without Fragarach.