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    Quote Originally Posted by LeadDemon View Post
    Balmung
    Reforged from Gram, which Odin left in a tree.

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    Cthulu Book
    The book was found in R'Lyeh by the Xin Chinese, so Cthulhu, as you just said.


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    Is literally called "God Is Here With Me".

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    Excalibur is a Divine Construct, one of the ultimate god-forged weapons, made by the planet itself specifically as a crystallization of the wishes of mankind, embodying the ideal of warrior glory and heroism that all warriors past, present, and future desire in one way or the other; it is also described that it's so superior to other Phantasms that calling it "beautiful" would be an insult to its holy perfection.
    Christ this is why I hate everything about Excalibur.

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    The most famous sword in the world is Speshul? Perish the thought!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagrant View Post
    The most famous sword in the world is Speshul? Perish the thought!
    Ignoring that Zulfiqar and probably even the sword that guards Eden is at least as famous, the fact that it is the special snowflake super-sword forged by the planet as some sort of anti-threat laser instead of a really good sword Arthur got from a hand in a lake is ridiculous.
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    So is the fact that Lu Bu's halberd is actually a modular wave cannon bow instead of just a halberd but nobody gives a fuck. I fail to see your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagrant View Post
    So is the fact that Lu Bu's halberd is actually a modular wave cannon bow instead of just a halberd but nobody gives a fuck. I fail to see your point.
    Lu Bu mastered five kinds of weapons, so someone designing a weapon that is literally all those weapons in one is a more acceptable break from myth than the SPESHUL PLANET-FORGED uber laser for the creator's pet based on exactly fuck all in legend.

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    For Muslim world Zulfiqar is more famous than any sword, but still, even if more people probably know the name of Excalibur than they know Zulfiquar, the former is certainly overwanked by Nasu. Though he is free to do so even if it's silly for some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    For Muslim world Zulfiqar is more famous than any sword
    And 1/4th of the world's population is Muslim so do the math.

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    Planet needs a way to protect itself, I have no issue with this.

    There are plenty of issues I have with Saber. This is nothing that we didn't already know though, so this is not one of them.

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    I don't see how Excalibur being a weapon to protect the planet is such a big deal.

    I mean, think about it. Given the track record of Gaia's Counter Force, this is practically a nerf

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    Planet needs a way to protect itself, I have no issue with this.

    Still dies anyway. So retroactively bolstering her protection is redundant.

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    Meaning no harm is done.

    And anyway, everything dies. If it didn't die then it never had a purpose to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridget View Post
    I mean, in the logic of the original work Excalibur gets presented already as the strongest weapon after Ea so at very worst this is a welcome return to origins, after the retarded powercreep we got.
    I like this way of looking at it. We've come full circle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridget View Post
    I mean, in the logic of the original work Excalibur gets presented already as the strongest weapon after Ea so at very worst this is a welcome return to origins, after the retarded powercreep we got.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vasavi Shakti
    The god killing spear [O Sun, Abide by Death]. Its power is surely sufficient to kill gods. Therefore Heroes are a matter of course; Magical Beasts, Phantasmal Beasts, Divine Beasts, Shields, Fortresses, Bounded Fields, every single existence is equally meaningless.
    heh

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    He meant in the original work, we already know derivative works pull out equally or stronger techniques and items.

    Excalibur is really strong, just deal man. From citywide powerslash to localized lightsaber, but we already know the power can be adjusted since at its base it's just Gourry's Sword of Light mechanically.



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    I know what he meant. He said that we're back to pre-powercreep where Excalibur is the second strongest thing. I said he was wrong.

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    i'd argue all the CCC final bosses NPs are probably stronger than Excalibur(and Vasavi Shakti) anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    Reforged from Gram, which Odin left in a tree.
    Did Apocrypha actually some something like this, or did you butcher the mythology on your own here?

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    He's probably mixing Siegfried with Sigurd.

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    Bridge, the fact that VS "renders everything else meaningless" still trumps "strong enough to save the Planet" is what Chris is stating, even with the revelations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elthanes View Post
    He's probably mixing Siegfried with Sigurd.
    The name Gram comes from the Norse versions of the myth and while Balmung is used in the Nibelungenlied, and I'm not aware of any version of the story where the sword is renamed upon reforging (which doesn't even happen in the Nibelungenlied, just the Norse versions and Wagner).

    Christemo was telling a bizzaro fanfic version that not only mixed names from two distinct versions of the myth, but also added details that weren't in either.

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