Incidentally, her exit from Ciel's True Ending implies that she just 'disappeared'.Originally Posted by mewarmo990
Incidentally, her exit from Ciel's True Ending implies that she just 'disappeared'.
...Deal with it
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HA is a conjoining of all the best possibilities, so no, it's not possible.
By a doubtful value of best.
Ragnarok, come day of wrath
That fallen souls might bear our plea.
To hasten the Divine's return.
O piteous Wanderer.
Did you consider "I was mistaken"?
Servants are half-spirits. Which might be why they can shift back and forth between spiritual and material bodies.
Arc is fully incarnated, though, that's true. Like Blackened Servants, no spirit form for her.
It's not anywhere I've looked.
Either way it goes against the very definition of Spiritual Body.
“Spiritual Body” is a word that describes an existence with spiritual properties. In other words, a shape is constructed without relying on components with physical properties.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
You don't have to keep repeating yourself, I know what terms you mean. It doesn't change what I'm saying.
To get back to the topic, it's not a contradiction that Shiki can see lines on Arc's body, because he is seeing the death (like, points of least resistance to actuate death) of her physical body. If he was really seeing her spiritual body lines she might not have revived herself, or it would have been even harder.
Per Kagetsu Tohya, humans have spiritual bodies too, it's just that they are anchored to the flesh in a way that the spirit won't hold in the environment without it. Arcueid is not like this.
Yeah my mistake, I sort of ignored the entire point of the Grail system.
Last edited by mewarmo990; May 7th, 2015 at 12:04 AM.
Gil became incarnated right? Wasn't there a Q&A where Nasu said seiba and Gil had visible lines?
...Has Nasu read Avicebron's Fons Vitæ?
That reminds me. If you make a contract with Nanako you can see her and touch her even when she's completely a spirit.
So then why is it not like that for Servants?
Different contract rules or something?
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Uh, so what if he did? Does Nasu have to take a particular bit of philosophy?
I dunno, different spiritual bodies perhaps? Considering Seven is made from living things while Servant is just a mere container by Einzberns.
Are you sure it isn't like that for servants?
No I mean the wording of that sounds incredible similar to a main doctrine of Avicebron's philosophy.
Rin definitely can't see Archer when he pops off the mortal coil.
Ah, sorry, my mistake.
I dunno how much harder it could have been. It took her like, what, 29% of her total power to get around having her lines traced?
there was this whole "thing" about how it really shouldn't have been a big deal with her body being destroyed but the way shiki did it meant arc had to essentially drain an entire servant's worth of pure energy into getting around the problem.
Its not like that for Servants because you cant interact with an immaterial Servant.
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80%
Well I hear not existing is pretty permanent.
Ragnarok, come day of wrath
That fallen souls might bear our plea.
To hasten the Divine's return.
O piteous Wanderer.
well seeing as how mew specifically drew a line between "dead" and "harder" that is conveniantly excluded from consideration.
I think i was 80% of her current power and doin some algebra tobias came up with 29% of her pre roa power.
which still seams off though.
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