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"We have entered an infinite recursion of Saber."
Pseudo-reality marble thingy. Hero of children. Yeah.Originally Posted by Siriel
I have no idea what you mean though in terms of the argument that you can only be a HS from a story if your based off something.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
there was a theory about Shake's master originally wanted to summon some character from his book.
I will accept that.
I really don't know if Mary Shelley qualifies as a Heroic Spirit, though. Unless Fran's origin is instead based on the fact that Frankenstein is super famous in modern pop culture. Then I guess that just makes her a HS of very recent=low mystery.
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Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
I mean that fictional characters only seem to pop up as HS if they turn out to be based on something that existed, that base then being modified to better fit the character.
I might be wrong of course because I have no clue if Jekyll was a real guy or not.
Nursery Rhyme isn't related to that because she's not based on any particular character.
Ragnarok, come day of wrath
That fallen souls might bear our plea.
To hasten the Divine's return.
O piteous Wanderer.
I thought that was completely made up by jbbs.
The whole Hamlet or Macbeth thing.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Instead he got a professional playwright who can somehow commit mind rape casually.
Last edited by Peanut-007; June 2nd, 2015 at 02:34 AM.
"We have entered an infinite recursion of Saber."
Cyrano de Bergerac please
We still don't have an awesome musketeer type HS
Oh okay. Yeah that seems to be the case with the examples that are shown.
GO please deliver.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Fictional Heroic Spirits are obviously not well known by magi or else someone would have tried summoning Goku by now. So if the fictional character isn't at all human like say, Superman, can they still become a HS?
"We have entered an infinite recursion of Saber."
Toriyama is not HS.
It's like you didn't even read the observation I just made regarding fictional heroic spirits seeming to require having been based on something real.
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Besides HS Superman would be pretty lame considering he's known for having a giant weakness to magic. He would choke on his own existence.
Ragnarok, come day of wrath
That fallen souls might bear our plea.
To hasten the Divine's return.
O piteous Wanderer.
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Well yeah, that's because he's still alive!
Wait did we establish you needed an author HS to make a character HS already?
"We have entered an infinite recursion of Saber."
No, merely that author HS tend to create a lot of Noble Phantasms through their stories, so characters in their stories are likely to appear as HS.
Last edited by mewarmo990; June 2nd, 2015 at 02:46 AM.
Wasn't it just that author HSs might be able to summon their characters via story-actualization NPs even if their characters are also HSs?
That's what You said, at least.
Ragnarok, come day of wrath
That fallen souls might bear our plea.
To hasten the Divine's return.
O piteous Wanderer.
So back to my original question, is there anything stopping a post 1900 Fictional HS and if so what?
We should start bolding You and Me whenever we mention them to stop confusion.
"We have entered an infinite recursion of Saber."
You would know if you followed the conversation.
It would seem (by the evidence we have so far) that fictional characters only become HSs if they're based on something that exists.
So naturally as modern writers have less and less exceptional things to base their stories on due to the supernatural retreating (in a manner of speaking), fictional HSs would likewise stop occurring.
Last edited by Siriel; June 2nd, 2015 at 02:54 AM.
Ragnarok, come day of wrath
That fallen souls might bear our plea.
To hasten the Divine's return.
O piteous Wanderer.
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