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    Quote Originally Posted by Peanut-007 View Post
    So back to my original question, is there anything stopping a post 1900 Fictional HS and if so what?
    We should start bolding You and Me whenever we mention them to stop confusion.
    didn't we just spend a whole page answering your question?

    The real answer is that Nasu is not going to make Harry Potter a Heroic Spirit for reasons that should be incredibly obvious.

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    Toriyama is not HS.
    super duper obligatory:








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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    The real answer is that Nasu is not going to make Harry Potter a Heroic Spirit for reasons that should be incredibly obvious.
    Well yeah the out of story reason is obviously that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peanut-007 View Post
    So back to my original question, is there anything stopping a post 1900 Fictional HS and if so what?
    We should start bolding You and Me whenever we mention them to stop confusion.
    This has been explained pretty clearly but:

    1) Nothing is impressive enough anymore to count.
    2) People aren't able to garner 'worship' from humanity these days.
    3) Modern weapons/technology make everything too easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    didn't we just spend a whole page answering your question?

    The real answer is that Nasu is not going to make Harry Potter a Heroic Spirit for reasons that should be incredibly obvious.
    We've established some evidence pointing towards real people being needed to make HS's based off previous servants but no actual solid proof as far as I could tell. Please tell me how I'm wrong about this in excruciating detail if necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    This has been explained pretty clearly but:

    1) Nothing is impressive enough anymore to count.
    2) People aren't able to garner 'worship' from humanity these days.
    3) Modern weapons/technology make everything too easy.
    the question was edited to say "post 1900 fictional HS"

    to which I still answer "man, just think about it for ten seconds"
    Last edited by mewarmo990; June 2nd, 2015 at 02:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peanut-007 View Post
    We've established some evidence pointing towards real people being needed to make HS's based off previous servants but no actual solid proof as far as I could tell. Please tell me how I'm wrong about this in excruciating detail if necessary.
    Name a single "one and only" fictional character in the current era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    the question was edited to say "post 1900 fictional HS"

    to which I still answer "man, just think about it for ten seconds"
    Oh! Oh! The answer is international copyright law right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peanut-007 View Post
    We've established some evidence pointing towards real people being needed to make HS's based off previous servants but no actual solid proof as far as I could tell. Please tell me how I'm wrong about this in excruciating detail if necessary.
    actually, you didn't follow the whole conversation then. Because there are fictional Heroic Spirits. Like Frankenstein and F/SN Assassin.

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    Oh! Oh! The answer is international copyright law right!
    (yes)

    can you imagine what would happen to TYPE-MOON if Spider-Man was summoned?

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    Even Akasha fears the harsh penalties of Copyright infringement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    actually, you didn't follow the whole conversation then. Because there are fictional Heroic Spirits. Like Frankenstein and F/SN Assassin.



    (yes)

    can you imagine what would happen to TYPE-MOON if Spider-Man was summoned?
    perfect material for Koha-Ace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    Even Akasha fears the harsh penalties of Copyright infringement.
    Unfortunately, copyright lawyers are an apocalypse that even Gaia cannot prevent.

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    Humans are terrible creatures indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    perfect material for Koha-Ace.
    I can already imagine Akiha or Rider screaming at Kohaku to knock this shit off before they get sued into oblivion.

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    Wait if Gate of Babylon contains the original forms of all copyright and NP that actualize fiction to summon HS's then... Gilgamesh just got more OP plz nerf now, everyone take a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    Unfortunately, copyright lawyers are an apocalypse that even Gaia cannot prevent.
    To be fair, Gaia has a pretty lousy track record where Apocalypse's are concerned. I mean, look at it's counter-force. It's so bad Gaia had to outsource to a mere satellite.

    Gaia-chan is the retarded member of the Planetary family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    To be fair, Gaia has a pretty lousy track record where Apocalypse's are concerned. I mean, look at it's counter-force.
    no.... If that were true there wouldn't even be a Nasuverse to look at.

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    Isn't one of the big things about counter-force that you can't tell when it's actually happening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    no.... If that were true there wouldn't even be a Nasuverse to look at.
    Hey, it can't even get rid of us pesky humans. It made the ultimate Human-Extermination device, and then it went and became some vampire hussy's pet instead of doing it's Job.

    No, the one that knows what it's doing is Alaya, Gaia's crazy second personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    Hey, it can't even get rid of us pesky humans. It made the ultimate Human-Extermination device, and then it went and became some vampire hussy's pet instead of doing it's Job.

    No, the one that knows what it's doing is Alaya, Gaia's crazy second personality.
    Counter Force does a lot, yeah, but we do know that the World regularly culls humans that get too close to the Root, like the odd mutant fetus. Or is that the Counter Force at work....

    uhhh actually I don't want to pursue this line of discussion any more

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    Counter Force does a lot, yeah, but we do know that the World regularly culls humans that get too close to the Root, like the odd mutant fetus. Or is that the Counter Force at work....

    uhhh actually I don't want to pursue this line of discussion any more
    But do you really not want to discuss it, or is that the Counter Force making you not want to discuss it?

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    Classic counter-force problem.
    "Well all the evidence is circumstantial, it didn't have to be here. Something about a ying-yang and stair elevators?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    Hey, it can't even get rid of us pesky humans. It made the ultimate Human-Extermination device, and then it went and became some vampire hussy's pet instead of doing it's Job.
    The planet loves its children, so she's pretty helpless against them.

    ...Maybe the Earth would kick major ass if she had to defend against aliens or something.

    Notes says that the Earth was OK with humans killing her, as long as they died too. But no, they had to survive, tsk tsk tsk
    Last edited by aldeayeah; June 2nd, 2015 at 03:41 AM.
    don't quote me on this

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