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    Quote Originally Posted by Milbunk View Post
    Hmm it doesn't seem to have it, the one I'm looking for at the moment is the one where Rin summonnormal Gil.
    Ahh, that one.

    Took a while but here: Gilgamesh VS Rin

    Best I could do.

    Wait, nevermind, found it on E-Hentai: http://g.e-hentai.org/g/151276/881e16835b/
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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    The only translation of Angel Notes AFAIK is this one. The other versions I'm aware of are copyedits of that.
    Yeah, Seika directed me to that thread where I could recover said translation after my HDD died and I lost most of my TM stuff some months ago. <<<--- I'll never recover all of those pics... TT__TT


    What I'm searching for it's an scan (if there exists one) or a full (and correct) transcript from Angel Notes. and all the terms that came with it. I need it for a translation to another language, and I was wondering if someone out there did have it at hand and could share it, as doing the translation of a translation isn't exactly a good idea.


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    The first link in my post was a scan. Go to page 4 for Notes.
    don't quote me on this

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    Can anyone advise on what is the extent of Shirou's pseudo immortality post Heaven's Feel True ending?

    Let's say he wears out/gets seriously injured (losing limbs/organs) in his current body...if there is another puppet body available, can he just jump over and occupy it?

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    Only if he knows where in the world Carmen Sandiego Touko Aozaki is, and can convince her to make him a puppet, since she's the only one good enough to troll Gaia with her perfect replica puppets.

    He's not really any different from a normal person post-HF, with the exception of being placed into a different body from the original- Rin even says that he still dies when killed

    At least, that's what I think it was. It's been forever since I read HF.
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    i) Is he able to independently jump bodies? Or must an intermediary do it for him?

    ii) Must the puppet body be an exact replica of him? Or can he just reshape it to his form since his soul remembers it?

    iii) Let's say he suffers a mortal wound, but his soul refuses to acknowledge he's dead...can he stay anchored to that body until a replacement is found?
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    No on the third one:

    …Don't take this the wrong way. Shirou's as human as the rest of us.
    He can go get surgery at hospitals, drink cold medicines, and die when he's killed.
    Souls can be put into bodies to give them life, but the souls will be fixed to the body in exchange.
    So it's possible for someone to shift him around (the body he has in the epilogue is a replacement they bought), but the only way for him to 'jump' bodies postmortem is if he has one so perfect that Gaia gets all confused and thinks he's still alive.

    And since he's not Touko, he can't do that.

    TLDR: From a practical standpoint there is no difference between how he was before and after being saved by Ilya.
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    …Don't take this the wrong way. Shirou's as human as the rest of us.
    He can go get surgery at hospitals, drink cold medicines, and die when he's killed.
    Souls can be put into bodies to give them life, but the souls will be fixed to the body in exchange.
    This is the important part. He is still human, so his soul can't remain in the environment once the body is dead.

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    Question: Is it possible for Medusa the Gorgon to be summoned as an Archer?

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    I think even by the loose standards of Servant containers, classing Cybele as arrows would be taking it a bit far. Caster, sure. Archer, I doubt.
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    Launcher is a possibility, I mean, Cybele eye beam!
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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    No on the third one:



    So it's possible for someone to shift him around (the body he has in the epilogue is a replacement they bought), but the only way for him to 'jump' bodies postmortem is if he has one so perfect that Gaia gets all confused and thinks he's still alive.

    And since he's not Touko, he can't do that.

    TLDR: From a practical standpoint there is no difference between how he was before and after being saved by Ilya.
    But wasn't it implied that Illya moved him into a temporary inanimate vessel to save Shirou's life? (Causing him to be invalid until they found a proper puppet body)

    I always thought it was an indication that he could survive as long as his soul believed he was alive...soul degradation not withstanding.

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    Isn't Medusa usually depicted with a bow and arrow as a weapon? Plus having a body of half snake half woman thing.

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    Ilya shifted him into an imperfect body (we're never told how different, just that it wasn't quite right). That's not the same as a temporary inanimate vessel, that's just Ilya not having the full version of the 3rd, so she didn't get it quite right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamsRequiem View Post
    Isn't Medusa usually depicted with a bow and arrow as a weapon? Plus having a body of half snake half woman thing.
    I've never heard of her depicted with any sort of weapon before. In the myths she never needed them, since anyone she might have had to fight wound up a garden statue.

    And how is being part-snake relevant to archery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    I've never heard of her depicted with any sort of weapon before. In the myths she never needed them, since anyone she might have had to fight wound up a garden statue.

    And how is being part-snake relevant to archery?
    No, some depictions in greek mythology do have her using a bow and arrow. SMITE even included her Archer traits when they added her to their game:


    I don't know why being half snake is relevant either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksho View Post
    No, some depictions in greek mythology do have her using a bow and arrow.
    Source me.

    I'm reasonably sure any and all depictions of Medusa with a bow are Harryhausen's fault.
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    He just gave you a video from SMITE Seika, surely that is source enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    Only if he knows where in the world Carmen Sandiego Touko Aozaki is, and can convince her to make him a puppet, since she's the only one good enough to troll Gaia with her perfect replica puppets.

    He's not really any different from a normal person post-HF, with the exception of being placed into a different body from the original- Rin even says that he still dies when killed

    At least, that's what I think it was. It's been forever since I read HF.
    And even Touko, mind, could only make a perfect copy of herself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seika View Post
    Source me.

    I'm reasonably sure any and all depictions of Medusa with a bow are Harryhausen's fault.
    My bad...after further research, I found out it was mainly Castlevania's fault:


    They're depiction during the 90's started it all apparently.
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    Oh, it's a modern culture depiction then, not something that was derived from myth. Got it.

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