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    Richard doesnt have Caliburn he has an Excalibur

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    agaa I dunt pay attention to strange fake I just remember the original statements being 'he has caliburn1!!11!'
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    I wouldn't say GB was a NP during lancer's time since Scathach was still alive and not a HS yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruor View Post
    Actually, as a whynot argument, I'll claim that some weapons probably were NPs when the Hero was alive- Richard with Caliburn, Lansah with GB (though he made his own feats with the weapon), stuff like that were prolly NPs, but yeah thats only because those weapons had feats made with them before they had them (Scathach with GB and Seibaa with Caliburn).

    Well, as a counterargument, its kinda fuzzy whether or not these could be considered NP abilities ala Rhon and Fragarach or inherit traits of the weapon (as the scene where Lancer did thrown GB described it as the original function of the spear).
    Yeah this is what I mean by Fraga-like. You're inheriting the NP basically. It'd be like if I found Gae Dearg and started stabbing stuff with it. It would be a NP but like it wasn't always a NP.
    It's not like the weapon was inherently a NP though.

    -The original weapons are not just lumps of steel, they have their own concepts. Striking Death Flight is not an "original feat" of Lancer's, so any chump picking up Gilgamesh's proto-Gae Bolg will fire something like Striking Death Flight.

    The proto-types won't be able to recreate feats they achieved in the hands of later day heroes, they will only be able to do "what they are made to do".
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    -Well, it is not enough with just "Mcjon01 did something totally awesome with Gae Bolg".

    It has to be "Mcjon01 did something totally awesome with Gae Bolg, food wrote a ballad about the feat, the whole Internet started to sung about the ballad and Mcjon01's feat".

    Then maybe Mcjon's trick with Gae Bolg can become an actual Noble Phantasm.

    The ultimate purpose of NP is to recreate the feat in tales and legends.
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    Even if something is the inherent trait of the weapon it can still become a NP. Which it is said that there is a ton of limited function mystic codes that became NPs.
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    Wasn't Excalibur made as a Last Phantasm from the get go by the fae? Kinda like how the gods gave Perseus five nps to kill rider?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asunder View Post
    Wasn't Excalibur made as a Last Phantasm from the get go by the fae? Kinda like how the gods gave Perseus five nps to kill rider?
    I hope you're not implying that something is a Noble Phantasm just because it has "Phantasm" in its name.

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    We don't know what a Last Phantasm means. We assume it means its fucking stronk. But we know stuff like Crown Phantasms are also better than NPs.
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    Like the deal which Richard. His beamu right now is ×××××勝利の剣. So assuming that it isn't Promised Sword of Victory and it's something else. His NP, his beamu, wouldn't have been a NP at the time he fought DAs because it isn't Promised Sword of Victory, Saber's NP, and probably no one else before him made that beamu into a NP. So it shouldn't be a problem taking down DAs at that time.
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    Because Nasu really, really, really likes the word phantasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haseo Nanaya View Post
    I wouldn't say GB was a NP during lancer's time since Scathach was still alive and not a HS yet.
    Talking to my self but whateves.

    As an example Shirou's UBW isn't a NP right? but Archer's is. So if I steal UBW and use it it still wouldn't be a NP, until Archer uses it.

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    ^^Honestly, that's probably it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruor View Post
    We don't know what a Last Phantasm means. We assume it means its fucking stronk. But we know stuff like Crown Phantasms are also better than NPs.
    What are crown phantasms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haseo Nanaya View Post
    What are crown phantasms?
    Can't talk about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asunder View Post
    Wasn't Excalibur made as a Last Phantasm from the get go by the fae? Kinda like how the gods gave Perseus five nps to kill rider?
    Crown Phantasm is a thing.
    Gods can have Noble Phantasms as well. Like Enkidu is supposed to be a Noble Phantasm of the gods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haseo Nanaya View Post
    Talking to my self but whateves.

    As an example Shirou's UBW isn't a NP right? but Archer's is. So if I steal UBW and use it it still wouldn't be a NP, until Archer uses it.
    Archer's UBW is and isn't a NP at the same time. It's what he calls his NP but it isn't exactly a NP.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Can't talk about it.
    No fair.
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    seika please this must be ban worthy

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    Its a mahoyo spoiler so he actually cant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haseo Nanaya View Post
    What are crown phantasms?
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    Hovering in the sky, the spotless bloodline
    That which could truly be said to be a part of the magic sky
    Green fog, a mystery fading into the green coloured clouds
    That which was known throughout the magic world as a precious treasure
    With a value and rarity greater than a kingdom, Crown Phantasm
    "That's Snark... !!!"
    Even more different than the First, the greatest imaginary in the world.
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    Curor, I mean the man likes DDD, he must have had a hard life, yet he's still trying so hard.
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    Cruor is so handsome and nice I want to brush his perfect hair and maybe caress his rosy cheeks. Now put me in your sig ya fuck
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    If only people praised me as much as they praise you, Cruor-sama!
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    Cruor is very nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    Its a mahoyo spoiler so he actually cant
    oh....

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    Thanx. I think I get it.

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    Someone's going to complain about spoilers.
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    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

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