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[mewarmo990]

So the Crucifixion was the tipping point between AOG and AOM? I wonder if it actually changed anything or if it just a big event that people decided to go with since the fall started with solomon dying and at Saber's reign there were only remnants left.

Probably not. ^read above

year 0 also doesn't coincide with the death of Christ, but his birth.

[Akanzara]

Um the date of the crucifixion wasnt 0 AD anyway, if thats what you meant.

[Christemo]

Crufixion wasnt in 0AD

[Siriel]

So the Crucifixion was the tipping point between AOG and AOM? I wonder if it actually changed anything or if it just a big event that people decided to go with since the fall started with solomon dying and at Saber's reign there were only remnants left.

The decline had already started in Gilgamesh's days.

[mewarmo990]

The decline had already started in Gilgamesh's days.

Second Law of Thermodynamics.

[Christemo]

Age of Gods ended at different times in different regions.

Didn't Britain just have some remnants.

There's some other hints like how Arash served the last king of the Age of Gods in his region.

Yeah, Arash having no fixed date on him IRL helps immensely there.

[mewarmo990]

Didn't Britain just have some remnants.

yeah

Honestly not sure. Maybe CCC really meant that c. 0 CE was a hard rule.

FGO confirms that it's already over by year 60.

I feel like it would have already been over by Alex's time though.

[Siriel]

Second Law of Thermodynamics.

I think when people notice that it's happening and go "Better try to stop that." it's more than just a general "everything ends at some point".

[Elthanes]

yeah

Honestly not sure. Maybe CCC really meant that c. 0 CE was a hard rule.

FGO confirms that it's already over by year 60.

I feel like it would have already been over by Alex's time though.

Problems start showing up if you try to fit "purely historical" figures into myth

[Embrace tophats]

why doesn't Nasu incorporate Canaan in the nasuverse. Honestly, after all the magical stuff, some good old superhuman mutants are just what we need

[You]

What's the source for Nasuverse Cu being from the 1st century AD again?

Caster cu's interlude

[Strange_One]

Add to DDDverse maybe

[You]

why doesn't Nasu incorporate Canaan in the nasuverse. Honestly, after all the magical stuff, some good old superhuman mutants are just what we need

Because it's part of another franchise.

[Strange_One]

That too. 428 Shibuya in english never ;_;

[mewarmo990]

Problems start showing up if you try to fit "purely historical" figures into myth

yes.

Well we have time frames for the historical figures. Like Alex.

and not that this has any bearing on Nasuverse but there are speculative chronologies like this: http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc...tory/clam.html

The conclusion to Odysseus' life pretty much ended the Age of Heroes in Greece. I like to think that this is when the Age of Gods ended for them, too. It would also be before what we conventionally consider "ancient Greece."

But of course, you can place mythological events at any point before recorded history starts giving too many details to fill in the blanks.

[Dartz]

Regression has nothing to do with circuits.

Arcueid has regression because she's a Crimson Moon clone.

Eh, regression is all about recreating old mysteries, nothing more. Someone that can recreate the mysteries the gods did in the Age of Gods will have regression. On the other hand, if that person is able to use powers that weren't in the AoG then those wouldn't be accounted as regression even if they are greater in scale or more powerful (i.e pole shifts didn't happen in AoG so rank doesn't account them).

[You]

(i.e pole shifts didn't happen in AoG so rank doesn't account them).

how do you know they didn't happen in the AoG?

like literally the only thing we have about regression is:

Q: What do the Quality/Quantity/Composition of Regression to the Age of Gods mean in Beowulf's profile? Do Ploys, Arcueid, and Heroic Spirits have such designations? And what would their number be?
A: Regression to the Age of Gods represents the extend at which they are capable of reproducing the Mysteries that existed on Earth before True Magic. Consider it to be like that, their own style of Magical Circuits. Quality represents "how distant from what humans are capable of" their pure Mysteries are. Quantity represents power. The higher the quantity, the greater the degree of influence over the surrounding environment. Since Beowulf only has a quantity of C, he can only display his power to an individual, or over a village.
Composition represents the era of the "Mystery". In terms of magecraft, it would be like Rune, Kabbalah, Black Magic and such.
Ploys are not of Age of Gods, so they cannot be assigned a number in Regression to the Age of Gods.
For Arcueid... Princess Arcueid should qualify. "Quality: B Quantity: A++ Composition: Before Common Era, pseudo-deified natural phenomenon"

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so what is incorrect?

It is a golden greatsword, being very similar in nature to Caliburn, but possessing both the attributes of a Holy and Demonic blade, much like Excalibur.

Here's one.

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I thought that was just You being confused.

Spoiler:

Yeah my bad.
Roman's like "K guys you in 1 AD Gaul and like Brynhildr is here"
So I was like, why is Attila here unless she was born at this time.
However, yeah just me being confused. Attila, Siegfried, and Kriemhild can be from a different time and Brynhildr is just randomly in 1 AD for some destruction reason.

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Found in some ruin in Sahara, her lollipop sword is Depletion Garden, she is an emotionless brick whose is permanently switched into "DESTROY" mode

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It's supposed to be a complusion greater than a Command Spell.
So i'm thinking origin or like something to do with Planet Emblem and Gaia or Alaya or the Planet or something that's going to be really really really revelation-y that's going to make Super Excalibur look reasonable.

＠マシュ
たとえば、魔力の類を感知したという意味かも知れませんね。
＠アルテラ
魔力、か。否定はしないが……。
＠アルテラ
令呪の強制力を上回る強制、指令のたぐい私は、そう感じている。

[Dartz]

how do you know they didn't happen in the AoG?

The world would have been destroyed? I mean a pole shift has wiped out all mana off the world in at least two universes. It's kinda unlikely a cataclysmic event occurred.

[You]

Apparently CasterCu has a crest though to explain why his runecraft is a rank higher. What's up with that? Translation error? Crests were made differently back then?

Runes: B

Cú Chulainn obtained 18 runes (Northern European magic crest) from his studies with Scáthach, using them as appropriate to respond to different situations. Among these runes, one had a search function. This ability supported his elusive activities during the Holy Grail War.
Caption: Cú Chulainn used his rune magic to set fire to the Einzbern castle.

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The world would have been destroyed? I mean a pole shift has wiped out all mana off the world in at least two universes. It's kinda unlikely a cataclysmic event occurred.

not in tsuki no sango tho.

An early mention of a shifting of the Earth's axis can be found in an 1872 article entitled "Chronologie historique des Mexicains"[7] by Charles Étienne Brasseur de Bourbourg, a specialist in Mesoamerican codices who interpreted ancient Mexican myths as evidence for four periods of global cataclysms that had begun around 10,500 BCE. In 1948, Hugh Auchincloss Brown, an electrical engineer, advanced a hypothesis of catastrophic pole shift. Brown also argued that accumulation of ice at the poles caused recurring tipping of the axis, identifying cycles of approximately seven millennia.[8][9]

if it's good for wikipedia it's probably good enough for Nasu as well.

[You]

So, how did circuits come to be? And when were they created. Basically, does Caster have circuits?

Recent mutation.

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Going back to this, I just remembered Nero has Circuits.

So in terms of recent it's not that recent.