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[Mcjon01]

Saber's armor, Lancelot's armor, Gilgamesh's armor, Lancer's bodysuit, Rider's skimpydress. Probably some others.

Edit: Not sniped, just late. Also, this isn't really an edit, I put it in here the first time.

[Cruor]

Gil's also wearing armor from a time when they thought bronze and aluminum was the shit to have.

I have no clue about the dress fashions in old Rome but I doubt the emperor would walk around in a see through skirt.

Rider's dress. I choose to believe Shinji put it on her. Oh wait Rider's past in ha shows her wearing it there too. Yeah, I'm still gonna believe Shinji put it on her.

And that is not formal wear Tamamo. Actually, what is that.

[SeiKeo]

Mmh, I kept thinking about Iskandar for some reason.

Anyway, you make a fair point. However, all of those seem to stem from the modern confusion/perception of outfits (i.e. knights and plate armour, random modern stuff on ancient servants). I don't think Nasu has exhibited instances of putting heroes in other countries' garb.

Tube skirts are not Greek, spandex is not Irish.

[Apple]

Yeah, but you can't consider that (tube skirts/spandex) representative of any one civilisation, either. It's a modern global amalgm kind of thing. I was thinking of instances where Nasu specifically puts equipment of one country/civilisation onto another. The stuff that the archer/knight/rider are wearing have very European designs. Putting it on a chinese hero like Mulan would be especially awkward.

[SeiKeo]

Yeah, but you can't consider that (tube skirts/spandex) representative of any one civilisation, either. It's a modern global amalgm kind of thing. I was thinking of instances where Nasu specifically puts equipment of one civilisation onto another. The stuff that the archer/knight/rider are wearing have very European designs.

Arthur was Roman-Saxon. Plate armor is not Roman or Saxon in origin.

[Counterguardian]

I think he meant that Nasu never gave a 15th century Roman a set of 15th century Chinese armor and to ignore cases where the difference mainly comes from a difference in time.

[SeiKeo]

I think he meant that Nasu never gave a 15th century Roman a set of 15th century Chinese armor and to ignore cases where the difference mainly comes from a difference in time.

Again, Gil wearing European plate. That's not only time.

[Counterguardian]

I thought plate armor was pretty generic armor.

Eh, this isn't my argument anyway.

[Apple]

Arthur was Roman-Saxon. Plate armor is not Roman or Saxon in origin.

Herp, okay. The medieval people are equally guilty of that too, though, because Arthur and fellows always seem to be portrayed in full plate.

I thought plate armor was pretty generic armor.

Eh, this isn't my argument anyway.

Lancelot's full plate doesn't really resemble lorica segmentata, (which apparently was what the romans used) more closely approaching a modern intepretation of medieval plate armour. A similar situation goes for Arturia's gauntlets and skirt.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Herp, okay. The medieval people are equally guilty of that too, though, because Arthur and fellows always seem to be portrayed in full plate.

Because of where the Arthurian myths derive. People write what they know, and since you have a lot of French authors writing Arthurian legends, armor gets Frenchified.

Happens with Nasu too, in his own country, subtly. Assassin's sword Monohoshizao was three feet long and straight, not the holyshit length it is in the game/anime. The Japanese love to katana-ize everything. Though you could counter that with "Assassin isn't real in Nasuverse."

[Apple]

So would we consider that the fault of the French authors, Nasu's fault, or the grail acting out its typical 'all myths are true' kind of thing?

[Aladar]

Isn't the Lancelot and Grail part of the Arthurian cycle a French addition anyway?

[Arashi_Leonhart]

It's not really anyone's fault, I don't think. People romanticize and/or write what they know, and it just happens. Nasu's better about it than most movies First Knight I'm looking at you and the visual look might actually throw people if they were more historically accurate. As much as I laugh at Gram, Caliburn, and Excalibur being toted as 10th Century arming-ish swords, it'd look less romantic of them to be jabbing at each other with spathas and wearing chainmail at best.

[Aladar]

Yeah, historical accuracy is kinda just a bonus to things that are aesthetically accurate.

[Apple]

Yeah, but it has different implications on whether Mulan being identified as one of the archetypical heroes in the cards was a likelihood or not.

Again, Gil wearing European plate. That's not only time.

Not a good example. Gil's armour is supposedly from the vault, and is never explicitly specified to have been developed in his country. It does go against what the ancient Babylonians had in their time, though.

[Aladar]

My head hurts when I think what Mulan would turn out to be in the Nasuverse.

[Mcjon01]

My head hurts when I think what Mulan would turn out to be in the Nasuverse.

A horse.

[Counterguardian]

Obviously a loli.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Actually a boy.

[Aladar]

So s/he's actually a boy pretending to be a woman pretending to be a man?